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#91008 - 10/21/04 02:27 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
Dnj Offline
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sounds very confusing but Good Luck with it! Let us know how it works out.

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#91009 - 10/21/04 04:02 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
MrEd Offline
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Registered: 09/30/04
Posts: 519
Tommy,
It doesn't sound much different than going the MP3 route that you had "ARGHHHHHHHHHHH".

Don't know how much cash that you want to put out but 1 more thing to look into is Baldoni's custom sounds and rhythms pre-setup in an x4.
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I am an accordion enthusiast myself. As Donny (DNJ) said, keep us updated.

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#91010 - 10/22/04 01:21 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
The Accordionist Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 221
It's a little different than the MP3 route because I can customize my own arrangements, fills, etc. Kind of like Band in a Box, where you enter in the chords and select a pattern/chain of patterns. Also, it's just bass and drums - no other instruments which I think the mp3s would have.

And it uses all of the SRX sounds. I have always loved Roland's SRX expansion boards (including the incredible Complete Orchestra) and from the demos I've heard of the DR-770 and the 880 the bass and drums should be incredible.

Should take me a couple of beers and around 5 songs a night to put in all the changes. I should be ready to roll in a couple of weeks.

I will definitely post some mp3s of the new combo.

Again, thanks for all the suggestions.

Tommy

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#91011 - 10/22/04 04:10 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
MrEd Offline
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Registered: 09/30/04
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Originally posted by The Accordionist:
...I will definitely post some mp3s of the new combo...


Tommy,
Looking forward to MP3s (even with the accordion alone)

Good Luck!
Ed

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#91012 - 11/10/04 08:58 AM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
John R Offline
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Registered: 11/10/04
Posts: 36
Loc: Victorville, California
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Originally posted by MrEd:
Incidently, speaking of Petosa Millennium and Ketron, I was out last night being entertained by a guy playing dinner dance style music (standard ballads, jazz, swing ,latin stuff) on a Petosa Millennium with a Ketron X4, going thru a Bose L1 Cylindrical Radiator. He had a drummer though, so he was not using electronic rhythms.

I walked in and was at the back of the room. The sound was mellow and clear. Not loud, but full. I could not tell that he was playing a midi-reedless unit until he kicked in some other instrument sound combinations. With that Bose system, it was a quality combination. If I was playing to a group wanting that style of music, I would have been proud to be putting out that sound (proud to be that good of a player too). I'm sure the setup is pricey but this guy was older than me and only a fraction of my size. When he finished, he packed up in minutes and carried the stuff off, all by himself!

Ed

Great to see other people play midi accordions!
I too use a midi accordion with a roland800 real time arranger, plus now the new Bose Pas speaker system.
My Roland800 is great, but I would like to use other interactive styles. Midi files are to restrictive for me. I saw that ketron has a style works 2000 that claims being able to take other styles for any system and I could play them in my Roland 800 as a user style(real time arranger). Have any of you guys tried this and does it realy work this way?

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#91013 - 11/10/04 05:27 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
John R.

What styles are you in need of?

I can email you some styles that will sound great on your RA 800..
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#91014 - 11/11/04 07:26 AM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
John R Offline
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Registered: 11/10/04
Posts: 36
Loc: Victorville, California
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
John R.

What styles are you in need of?

I can email you some styles that will sound great on your RA 800..


Fran,
Thanks! I'll e-mail you on this.
John

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#91015 - 09/23/05 01:52 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
Jerry T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/05
Posts: 1002
Loc: Phila. 'burbs, Pa. USA
[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Accordionist:
[B]Greetings all -


...I have a really nice acousitc accordion that I would like to use as the centerpiece of my setup...
Tommy

Okay Tommy,
It's been about a year with your new rig. How is it going and exactly what equipment are you using? I play through a Korg i40M with hard drive - holds about 7,000 files, SMF's and/or styles - not that I'll ever have that many. About half of my files are Band in a Box. Over the years I've been hearing about and seeing folks using mp3, lap-tops and any variety of modules and software. Each time I'm tempted to give a new system a whirl. But the i40M has limitations but is working for me, just need to upgrade the hard drive.
I'd really like to know how you're making out by now.
Jerry

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#91016 - 09/25/05 06:47 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
The Accordionist Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 221
Sorry for the delayed reply!

My how things have changed!

I sold my entire MIDI accordion rig. The Petosa Millenium and my Ketron XD3 arranger. I loved a lot of things about it but in the end it was crippling my advancement. I just was wallowing in the same old songs, not playing the accordion bass other than triggering chords with two-fingered left hand stabs.

And audiences never came up and asked me about my setup. I think (MY opinion) they thought it was all electronic. It's weird when an accordion plays a sax sound.

I went to acoustic only. I bought a new Exclesior 960 with the money I sold my MIDI rig with. I have never been happier.

I still frequent this forum every day. I am still learning so much from everyone here. I will by a high-end arranger. This TYROS2 has me completely excited. I'm even thinking about using it with my accordion on a gig but it seems cumbersome. It would be easier to just use a midjay for midi sequences or music file playback.

Take care.

Tommy

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#91017 - 09/25/05 09:17 PM Re: Accordion + Arranger Nightmare! Help!
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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