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#91126 - 08/05/02 10:20 PM PSR 2000 Version question
MagicUser Offline
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Registered: 06/05/02
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I have now in my spare time (like that really exists anywhere) played around with my new PSR2000. It came on Friday (it is now Monday) and between helping 2 of my neighbors build houses as well as building mine I played with some of the features and like everything I have tried. Sounds are great and it seems to do everything I tried so far. I checked the version and it is 1.03. Should I expect any problems with this version, have an upgrade or just enjoy the keyboard? Worrying is just one of my many hobbies

Thanks,
- Brian

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#91127 - 08/05/02 10:55 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
George Kaye Offline
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Bryan,
I understand your concern but please, do not worry. It's been my experience and my customers that whatever was changed in the latest release, it is not significant and only minor implementations for things I don't even know what they corrected. If, in any time during the next 2 years, anything new which really would make a difference comes out in a newer release, like maybe 2.0, you can get yours upgraded at no charge to you from any service center that works on Yamaha keyboards. I stress..............don't worry about the operating system, just enjoy your psr2000.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#91128 - 08/05/02 11:25 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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MagicUser,

Is it the 'Main Boot' category on your PSR2000 that reads 1.03? What's the version number of the 'Main Program'?

My PSR2000 OS version reads:
Main Boot: 1.03
Main Proram 1.00
All others (BMP,Style,etc): 1.00

Main Program version 1.10 and higher adds the ability (via Registration Memory) of storing 'fingering mode' as well as the 'left voice' independently in Registration Memory content's: 'voice' section. I'd assume that since your KB is new, that the Main Program version should be at least 1.10 or greater. Even though I have the earlier Main Program 1.00 version, for me (personally), I prefer it, but that's ANOTHER story.

MagicUser: Irregardless of WHICH version you have, because the PSR2000's OS is NOT flash ROM-able, it will not be easily possible or even recommended to update the OS chip, unless you ship it to Yamaha and have THEM do it. Unfortunately though, the ROM chip was soldered into the board in a fashion not designed to be replaced. Unsoldering the existing chip is known to have a very HIGH incidence of failure rate so I wouldn't even risk sending it to Yamaha to do this. MagicUser, I'm sure no matter which version you actually have, you should find it suitable. Now go have fun & enjoy your new keyboard.

Scott
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#91129 - 08/06/02 10:49 AM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Registered: 04/08/02
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Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Scottyee:
Unfortunately though, the ROM chip was soldered into the board in a fashion not designed to be replaced. Unsoldering the existing chip is known to have a very HIGH incidence of failure rate so I wouldn't even risk sending it to Yamaha to do this.
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Scott,
Don't get people worked up with misinformation. There's no chip designed not to be replaced. Some are more difficult than others, but if Yamaha screwed up the replacement they wouldn't charge you for the repair.

Midnite

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#91130 - 08/06/02 11:57 AM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Originally posted by Midnite Rider:
Don't get people worked up with misinformation. There's no chip designed not to be replaced. Some are more difficult than others, but if Yamaha screwed up the replacement they wouldn't charge you for the repair.


Just WHERE was I was giving out mis-information? I was only pointing out the increased risks and hassles of soldered in type of ROM chip replacement, and recommending that, if you want it done, that you send it directly to Yamaha.

I then followed up with only my 'personal' opinion, that I myself wouldn't send it back (to Yamaha) for this. Ok, so Yamaha won't charge us for the chip replacement, but are the potential weeks + delays (shipping, repair, possible even re-repair because of soldered chip replacement failure rates, return shipping, etc) worth the benefits of the current ROM chip upgrade? Only you can make that decision.
For myself, as a gigging musician who can't afford to be without my KB for very long: NO! In fact, I'm still happyily performing with the PSR2000 with the older ROM chip, and my audiences are happy as well.

I still think Yamaha should have fullfilled it's original PSR2000 commitment to supporting Flash ROM, but that's 'another' story !
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#91131 - 08/06/02 12:39 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Registered: 07/11/02
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all you wise ones take some information for granted. how do you check the version number? and whats the most recent one? thanks. Z

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#91132 - 08/06/02 01:06 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Hold down the notes C#-F-G# as a chord (one octave above the lowest C# on the KB) while turning on the keyboard. Then press the START button. This should bring up a screen which displays the Main Boot, Main Program, and other parameters.

Zack (and others): Please let us know what version your PSR2000 displays.

Scott
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#91133 - 08/06/02 01:36 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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you mean a Db? thats the same chord that brings up the tests. and mine just runs throught the tests until it says please insert a 4hdd disk. wot? thanks. Z

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#91134 - 08/06/02 03:22 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Yes, enharmonic equivilents: Db-F-Ab is fine too.

After pressing/holding the above notes as a chord (while starting up your KB), the word 'test' should appear on the LCD screen. Now release the chord and press the KB's 'start/stop' button. This should then bring up the screen that displays the 'main boot','main program' versions.
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#91135 - 08/06/02 08:17 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 190
Loc: New York, USA
Thanks you for your replys. Mine is the same as Scottyee's. I am pleased with it so far and still have thousands of options to go through before I would need to change anything. It seems that if something on it doesn't work "right" one way there is another way around it. By pressing 2 buttons instead of one. Not a problem for me. I like to press buttons.

Thanks George. Your support has been wonderful. I will take your advice and not worry.

I do have another question. Sometimes depending on what sound I pick the sound continues on and on for more than a minute before it will eventually fade out. Whistles in the drum section have done this. At first I noticed that the foot pedal needed to be reverse in the setting so that when you press on it it will sustain. That is fixed but some sounds have kept going anyway. Anyone ever have this happen?

Thanks again.
- Brian

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#91136 - 08/06/02 10:46 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Quote:
Originally posted by MagicUser:
Mine is the same as Scottyee's. - Brian


hi Brian (MagicUser):
I was surprised to hear that your PSR2000 OS is the same version as mine. I purchased my PSR2000 quite a while back (Nov 2001). In the meantime, I read that several forum members (Linda Fus, Jerryghr, & Rodrigues) who purchased their PSR2000 over 6 months ago, have a newer 'main program' version. Linda & Jerry with main program, 1.20, and Rorigues with main program, 1.10.

FYI: Here are two bug fixes that the later OS (main program: 1.10 and above) addresses:

1) Ability to save 'fingering type' in Registration Memory

2) Registration Memory Contents: Left Voice setting now stored in the 'voice' paramters section. Previously the Left Voice was mistakenly stored in the 'style' parameters section.
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#91137 - 08/06/02 10:54 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
George Kaye Offline
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Scott, I'm addressing this mostly to you because you keep stating that since Bryan just received his new PSR2000 it should have had the latest chip inside.
Brian bought a model that was on my sales floor. It had been on my floor for a few months. He knew that when he bought it. It still was sold as new with a two year warranty and he received some extra stuff as well at a very reasonable price. He was given the opportunity to purchase a new one in a sealed box or get a special price on the one on the floor. The floor sample was in perfect condition. Not all models brand new in boxes are going to have the same operating system. There are many variables. Again, the operating system issue is not something Brian needs to be concerned with and if he ever wants to upgrade his chip as many of you know from my service, I will personally see to it that Brian get's vip service from my store. Many of my customers who have had the need to contact me regarding a service issue, know how hard I work for them in resolving any and all problems.
Many distributors do not open up new gear to put in new operating systems unless keyboards are malfunctioning because of a bad system. Many times, a manufacturer will send new merchandise not from the factory but from other distributors who might have too much inventory. In these cases, some brand new merchandise can still be received by dealers long after a chip has been replaced. Again, let me stress, this is not the case if the chip is a neccessary chip needed to fix a defect. This would normally be fixed at the distributors facilities.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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#91138 - 08/06/02 11:19 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Quote:
Originally posted by George Kaye:
Scott, I'm addressing this mostly to you because you keep stating that since Bryan just received his new PSR2000 it should have had the latest chip inside.


Keep stating? I believe I only brought this up once. This certainly wasn't meant as an attack on you George. I had initially wondered if perhaps Brian (MagicUser) might had mis-read the test results.

Quote:
Originally posted by George Kaye:

Brian bought a model that was on my sales floor. It had been on my floor for a few months. He knew that when he bought it. It still was sold as new with a two year warranty and he received some extra stuff as well at a very reasonable price


OK, this makes sense to me now.
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#91139 - 08/06/02 11:35 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Loc: Reseda, California USA
Scott,
My error. I'm sorry for misquoting you. I was just trying to explain why this keyboard might not have had the number chip you were looking for in Bryan's keyboard.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
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#91140 - 08/07/02 07:39 AM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
Zack Offline
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Registered: 07/11/02
Posts: 138
hey all. my version numbers are as follows. main boot: 1.03
main program:1.10
the rest is 1.00

and
*001:Version
i dont know what this means.

also, it depends which Db chord you are hitting. if you hit Db1, then it gives you the options. if you hit Db2, then it automatically runs through all the tests. also, when you hold down the rightmost key, the screen says
entering system setup
or something like that. anyone have any idea what thats about? thanks. Zack

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#91141 - 08/07/02 12:52 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
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Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 190
Loc: New York, USA
Scott,
Thank you for the information. George has been very kind and good about supporting everything he said he would. Even when he is busy he was able to help me out. The only problem is he keeps confusing my name spelling with his son's Bryan Ok not a problem (I'm grinning here) It is better than writing Brain (which I get often). I tell people that is the best part of the anotomy to confuse me with

Like I mentioned before I can always press 2 buttons instead of one to compensate if there are minor problems. In my business we say they are "features" not "bugs."

I am pleased with the responses for now on the OS and will keep it as is for now. I knew about the floor model when I asked George from his postings a few months ago. Before I started posting I read the last 2 years worth of information just to make sure I was not repeating the same questions over and over.

Thank you again for all of your help. I have been starting the "course" at the Y2K site. Learning and downloading lots of good stuff. I will let you know if my brain explodes from information overload! (I think I still have lots of room there).

- Brian

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#91142 - 08/07/02 02:41 PM Re: PSR 2000 Version question
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
BRIAN,
I am so sorry I keep mispelling your name. Everyone mispells my son's namd BRYAN with Brian. I'll try my best to keep it straight!
George Kaye (not Kay, as most people spell it!)
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
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