The main benefit of using the Mix & match feature on Yamaha keyboard and other manufacturers boards is that all the work has already been done for you. Assuming you keep within the same style category some very good results are obtained.

The EMC route I find is very poor and even after conversion a lot of work is involved as most of the balance and volumes are neutralised. There are a few acceptations, but overall only a handful of conversions are worth while.

Thank You Nigel,
yes it is open to any brand of keyboard & software arrangers like Livestyler & OMB as they use .sty format, same as PSR's.
best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nigel:
[B]

Hi Graham ,
I agree the mix n match is a great way to go.

One thing EMC is handy for , is keyboards that don't have onboard style creation functions. Not a problem with Yammie keyboards because of all the great style programs michael, jorgen & jos have written , but if I'm not mistaken , some of the latest middle range roland keyboards don't have style creation functions, I think they can load a style, but not create. At least EMC would give them the opportunity of creating a style if they wanted to.

I just use EMC for an initial conversion , so I've got a variety of styles to audition when I'm looking for a style for a new song, then if one of the conversions is more suitable than my existing styles, I fix it up , even if it means redoing it by some other means.

Actually the mix n match works quite well with some of the conversions. I luv piano styles ( which sadly my sd1 lacks) The 9000 pro had some great piano solo styles, especially luved one of the ballad styles. Instead of leaving it as a solo, i added some extra tracks from my sd1 ( using mix n match) and it sounds reasonably good.
I've started keeping a library of useful rythmic phrases in my stylefactory program ie phrases like the arpeggio piano's out of the piano ballad style. Next I'll probably start collecting guitar phrases. Why be limited with mix n match by the styles in the keyboard.

thank you for your input
best wishes
Rikki

Why don't I see a style maker for Korg arrangers? Everything seems to be for Technics,Yamaha and Ketron. Or am I missing something?
A technical answer would be nice from a programer. I'd appreciate that and it would be interesting.

Hi Brickboo,
EMC makes a style conversion program for most brands of keyboards including Korg.

Years back,I used to own a korg i2 arranger ( 76 note version of the i3) and it had some of the best style creation functions available in it's day.

I'm not familiar with your Korg i40??
so not sure what style creation features it has. I seem to remember though, that with the korg i5m module I owned after the korg i2
I was able to load styles, but not create them (except via emc).
Can you record styles, or is it a function they've left out?
Vaguely in the back of my mind, I remember reading about a midi to style conversion utility for korg keyboards. If that's the case, there'd be nothing stopping you from creating styles for your korg keyboard , even if it doesn't have style creation functions.
I used to use either XG Works or One Man Band
software for creating/converting ( not sure which you'd call it) psr styles to my KN7.
Both of these programs load psr styles.
All I did was create a midifile from the various psr style parts, intro's Endings Variations, save it as a midifile. The KN7 had a function called song to style, which is same function as midifile to style in the psr programs available. So it was a case of load it in to the kn7 then extract style parts from the midifile. I used to do any tweaking, vol adjustments, program changes etc in the kn7 itself, including a bit of drum remapping when required. Actually worked quite well.

I've also tried the OMB/XG Works method with my SD1+. Unfortunately there's no midi to style program available so, I still create the midifle from the psr style, but I record the various style parts to the sd1 via midi & a sequencer. I do all the tweaking / editing / or creating required either in OMB or the sequencer.
http://www.gnmidi.com/
Look Under GNI Style there's an interesting program for Korg.

best wishes
Rikki
[QUOTE]Originally posted by brickboo:
[B]Why don't I see a style maker for Korg arrangers?

Rikki. Is it easier to create style files using Michaels programs or OMB?
Starkeeper



[This message has been edited by Starkeeper (edited 03-30-2006).]

Hi Starkeeper,
for me personally OMB, but remember I also use it as a realtime arranger, so I have vested interest in learning everything about the program that I can. For me it's an all in one. Realtime arranger, style creator/editor, sequencer, arranger (as in, type in chord progression & style parts) A bit like BIAB but not as sophisticated.

Really a case of having a look at the various programs & deciding which makes more sense to you.

Michaels & Jorgen's psr utilities\programs are aimed to assist psr keyboard owners.

I used to use Michaels & Jorgens programs when I was a 9000 pro owner,( goes back a few years now) but when I bought my Technics, I no longer had a use for them.
A bit later on, I discovered OMB and found a use for it. I used it to create styles for my Technics keyboard & as the program evolved, I also realized what a great realtime arranger it was.

I'm just really pleased that both Jorgen & Michael have joined the group, because you can't get a better expert on subject, than the creator of the software.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Starkeeper:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by rikkisbears:
[b]Hi Al,
thank you
I'm aware of some of Michaels wonderful psr programs.
We're very fortunate he has decided to join us also.

best wishes
Rikki




[This message has been edited by rikkisbears (edited 03-30-2006).]

Hi,
just in case anybody interested in joining isn't familiar with the yahoo group system,
when you do join, just make sure you click the correct preference for messages ie
you can receive "individual emails"
a digest of the days emails
or no emails at all, in which case you read the message on the yahoo site.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rikkisbears:
[B]Hi Jorgen,


Also makes me wonder how many people think to use some of the editing/creation features in their keyboards. The mix n matching of keyboard phrases to create new styles. My
sd1, kn7000 * 9000pro had this function.
Rikki,
I mixed and matching part from different styles on almost all my giging styles, I'm glad you did it as well. That's why it's hard to part with my old SD1 which I'm about to install EXP from AJ after this weekend gig, I'd love to hear some of your styles, thanks!


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Hey Rikki ...


I have remixed a few styles on the SD1...

I can send them to you if you wish... Kind of interesting....


An example is adding an acoustic guitar part from an 8-beat to the Tribal Age style or string parts from the "movie" style into the tribal age style...

Dan O'

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