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#93904 - 02/18/02 04:16 PM
utilizing 'Registrations Setups' for 'live' performance
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
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Originally posted by Uncle Dave: I never even wrote a single registration into my 9kpro ..... I am not writing anything into my 2k either. I will just take the extra time to set it up before each show, and make changes on the fly.. Uncle Dave, I'm as amazed (as Mario is) to hear that you don't use Registsrations at all. You say that you set things up before 'each show'. I'm not sure I understand this because, I would need to re-set up the keyboard before 'each song' as each song (and song section) typically requires a unique setup. In my case, I need to devote all my energy to the audience: both playing & vocal delivery. Having to manually press a myriad of buttons thru out a single song would really distract me from performing at my best. I don't think I could survive without at least some use of the Registration Memory feature. In addition to custom song registrations, I also have a variety of music 'genre' specific Registrations which are customized for specific song styles. This provides pre-selected instrument template setups/voices (country, jazz, pop, new age, big band, etc) which are instantly assessable. Very convenient for those off the wall song requests and thousands of tunes which I don't already have a Registsration made up for yet. Uncle Dave, since you say you don't use the Registration feature, I'm wondering 'how how many voice setup changes you make in a given song. Do you rely on the factory preset OTS settings to make voice changes or just make individual voices changes 'as you go'? I typically use the OTS settings as a starting point and then save my fav combinations/customizations to Registration Memory because it 1) supports more setups and 2) saves more setting parameters (even though it does lack some important settings you pointed out). I hope Yamaha will follow through and provide a chip update soon to address these issues. Anyway, it's fasinating to hear how we all utilize our arranger keyboards differently, so perhaps Uncle Dave will shed some more light on how he uses his PSR2000 when he performs. I'm also curious to hear how others out there utilize their arrangers when performing as well. - Scott
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#93905 - 02/18/02 04:46 PM
Re: utilizing 'Registrations Setups' for 'live' performance
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My basic set up is like yours, Scott. I have a couple of genre setups, plus approx 200+ songs ready to go at the push of a button for the usual dinner/dance situations. (I also do this with the PSR740...but it requires multiple discs.)
While most of my bookings are as a single, I also have two girl singers I work with in duos and have created individual set ups for each of us. This just assures the key sigs, tempos and styles suit each individual performer.
And for the 1-hour Senior Shows at assisted living and nursing homes, I have yet another setup with a much more limited repertoire, allowing me to access what I need almost instantly without having to punch up a bunch of pages. Should I need something I don't have on the Senior Disc, I just load my Singles Disc and usually am up and running inside of 30 secs including a little banter with the audience.
Pre-programming and saving all the registrations is a lot of work with unending tweaking, but once it is done, it sure makes it easier to concentrate on programming to each individual audience.
Seldom do I need more than 5-10 seconds from one song to the next. The great thing about the PSR2K it is adaptable to several preferences of performers. But, like you, I can't imaging Uncle Dave doing all this on the fly.
Eddie
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#93909 - 02/18/02 07:27 PM
Re: utilizing 'Registrations Setups' for 'live' performance
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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AS Jack Jones put it: I am a singer. I accompany my singing, and I rarely FEATURE the keyboard. It's an elaborated rhythm machine and bass player with a few "goodies" to spruce things up. If I ever do an instrumental, it's never more than 2 or 3 a night. Sometimes not even that! I found that the left hand is suffucient to privide me with enough "Backing" whether it's ME on bass or the whole arranger. The right hand is ME on piano (mostly electric). I don't want to sound like a hundred bands - I only want to sound like a singer with a small combo behind him. I often use the same piano/bass combo sound for most of a set, and just change the right hand sound to suit the song. Remember - I NEVER, EVER play just the melody line. Even when I do Moolight Serenade, as soon as the solo part is done - I do the vocal. It's one chorus of sax/clar and then ME. My right hand fills in ALL the chord changes, even if the arranger is playing. I sometimes shut the arranger chords off if they get in the way, of course. I have sequences ready and MD's too in case the room needs a certain "pulse", but most of the night - it's the trio sound of Rhodes, bass & drums that gets me off. (in a NICE way, of course - no vulgarity intended!) So, as for registrations: When the unit starts to work properly, I'll write in a handfull of setups that work as "building blocks" but nothing too specific. All I really need to do, is know what drum beat I need at any given time. If the piano & bass are always ready - I just have to "cue" the drummer. Just like in real life. I really go for that "live" and not too processed sound. I don't want to ever sound like the demo in the keyboard. Registrations are handy, but I use them sparingly, if at all. Priority after the vocal is" Bass, Drums and piano(or any chord sound) One of the strongest features on the 2000 is how GOOD it sounds just as a sideman. I'm not a flashy player, and I sing all the time, so my needs are not as strict as some others. My keyboard has to work simple, set up fast and stay reliable. So far all those needs are met with the 2000. I just wish it had better keys on it.
[This message has been edited by Uncle Dave (edited 02-19-2002).]
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#93910 - 02/18/02 07:47 PM
Re: utilizing 'Registrations Setups' for 'live' performance
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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I only have one bank of registrations, and I mostly use them to change right-hand sounds. I have around 30 "Favorites" in the Music Finder. They are more "genre" setups that songs, really. They cover most of the songs I do. It's easy enough to change the tempo if necessary before starting a song. The basic sounds I use on 90% of gigs is accoustic guitar, electric guitar, pedal steel, piano, sax, organ, fiddle and strings. I do use the OTS on many soungs, in addition to my 8 favorite sounds set up on the registrations. (Actually as many as 16, because I have Main and Layer set to different sounds in many cases.) Like Dave, I may use more Registration eventually, but I find that making myself learn to call up settings on the fly allows me to explore the keyboard and quickly learn to navigate it. DoM
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#93916 - 02/20/02 05:17 PM
Re: utilizing 'Registrations Setups' for 'live' performance
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