The Technics KN5000 & Roland G-800 arranger boards allow you to SAVE the 'synchro start on/off setting' as part of the performance memory' settings (Technics calls it a panel memory).

On my PSR2000, I'm sometimes finding it difficult to always remember to check to be sure that the SYNCRO-START button is set to'on' or 'off' before performing a song, so I'm wondering if it's at all possible to save the 'synchro start' on/off setting as a part of the 'Registration Memory' or within the style itself. I was not able to find a where to set this, or if it's even possible on the PSR2000, but perhaps someone else here knows the answer?

- Scott http://scottyee.com

Hi Scott,
I know this problem has been discussed before, whether you can do this. So far the answer has been NO...
Not even on the new upgrade for the Pro, that just came out.
I would be surprised if the Psr-2000 can do this. Sorry.
Hope this doesn't keep you from enjoying your new board.

Eric

Hi Eric: I now know WHY you have been a long time Yamaha PSR devotee! Still really ENJOYING the PSR2000 a LOT! - Scott

Idont know re 2000 but I do it on solton x1 --- I assume you are aware of that but I'm saying it just in case. I save it as single reg I cant remember if it is the same for block registrations as I have gear in van and also I only use single regs. Pierce

Hi Scott,
glad you do. BTW how do your converted KN-5000 styles sound on the 2000? Have you downloaded the styles from the Pro/CVP yet and tried them out?

Eric


[This message has been edited by Eric, B (edited 11-20-2001).]

Hi Eric, The only KN5000 styles I've loaded into the PSR2000 so far, are some of the jazz styles which I've grown so accustomed to (and like) on the KN5000. They all sound surprisingly good (and very usable) on the PSR2000 (abeit some a tiny bit of tweaking (instrument revoicings & possible track muting). I have yet to try out the Pro/CVP styles. So MANY styles, so LITTLE time

- Scott

Scottee, My problem with the 2000 is every time when you boot up unless you use preset
regestration memory. You have to:
1: select a style.
2: "" " Voice
3: ajust all your volume's so they bal.
4: Turn on the auto. Acc.
5: Turn off the Vocal harmony (comes on when
you boot up!)
6: push Intro.
7: push Sync. start.
8: One more thing! If you program your foot
sw to anything other than sustain you
have to do it every time you boot up!
I hardly use it but it's the same with voice
harmony. I set the Grand piano on country
duet, you turn it off & back it goes back
to Standard trio. Even my old 510 would
remember what you put into it.
Everything you do on this board you
have to put into memory.

I've got 80 song setups on a floppy.
This works real well.
But still involves pushing several buttons but it's the fastest way I've found so far. This way you must keep a list of your songs & location like say B1-4 or B6-1 ect.
I do have a question. You can store
80 setups in the user Reg. Mem.
10 BANKS of 8 setups which I transfered to a floppy. When I try to save bank 11 it puts it in front of bank-1 & does away with
Bank-10! What can I do to continue to load this floppy? I was hopeing to load 150 or so
songs on one floppy disk.
Hey don't get me wrong I love this board but if I had any hair I wouldn't by now. Guess I'm just to thick headed.
To much for me to learn ,maybe this time next year!
All help needed very much!
All the best,
Nobby



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[This message has been edited by Nobby (edited 11-20-2001).]

Hi Nobby: I think you have hit upon the reason you are having problems & frustrations with your PSR2000 in your FIRST sentence. The word is: REGISTRATION MEMORY!

The 'registration bank' file is the essential component used to keep everything (all other files) together. It's like the foundation & frame of your house. It holds up and links together all the other parts (style, sounds, multipads).

Here's how I set things up on my PSR2000 keyboard. I initially created file folder directories & sub directories in the 'Registration Bank' USER area. On the top hierarachal level I created folders by music genre: Big Band & Jazz, Classic Pop, Pop-Rock-Soul, Country, Latin, World, Show, Holiday. I then created sub folders within each of these folders with titles like (in the Latin folder): Jobim, Spanish, Cuban, Salsa, etc. Creating a file organization system from the beginning will pay off later as the number of custom Registrations quickly grows. I always create (and store) a Registration Memory for just about every song I play. This way I can then easily go back to customize it further as needed. It is EASY to do and just takes a second to store the setup in (at least) one of the 8 panel button memories. Once you do this, you can easily recall that setup anytime you want by just pressing the Registration Bank button 'J' on the MAIN page as soon as you first fire the keyboard up. This will instantly take you to the Registration USER Bank page where you can quickly select the Registsration Memory Song of your choice. VERY cool I think. You could also save a 'default' Registration Memory in the first USER 'Registration Bank' slot if you choose. This way you can save 8 of your favorite styles/settings in Registration Memory 1-8. As you can see, there is a lot of flexibility for customizing your PSR keyboard to YOUR indiviual needs and tastes. Also, don't worry about Registration Banks using up too much file space. You can store up to 800 files and folders in the PSR2000's USER memory. I already have over 20 customized Registration Memory songs stored and I've only had my keyboard for less than two weeks now. Of course you can easily backup the contents of USER Memory to a floppy if run out of space, But I really doubt that you will be creating 800 song files to quickly. - Scott

Hi Scott
my wife and I are heading up north for the new year ( Monterey/Carmel). We were wondering if you perform around this time. We might swing up and see your act with your new Yammi.
Let me know.
Happy Thanksgiving
Eric

Hi Eric,
I no longer do club gigs (bars/restaurants), but instead, perform for private events (corporate parties, weddings, retirement communities, special events, etc). I don't know if I'll be performing when you're up here (January is typically a dead month for gigging musicians), but email me privately and hopefully we can still meet (either in Monterey or up here in SF). It would be a blast to exchange keyboard playing tips with an experienced PSR player like youurself, and of course, play LOT's of music too. It would be great to finally meet both you and your wife and little 'Sunny' too. (woof woof) Happy Turkey Day!

Scottyee I use one folder for all and I set up about 20 files for each type of style eg Cntry ,cntrysl, all slow stuff is A eg Aworkin (=workin man 8beat at 112 tempo) this way all my stuff has the same number eg 120 = waltz , 070 = JOboy (ie all my love an all my kissin) this way when I add new setups I use one of the pre set up 20 files. This means that I simply turn on x1 and press registrations and I get all my setups and words of relevant songs by pressing eg 070 ie. JOBoy I am anxious to look at this issue further as it is the basis of our programmes and perhaps my way is only best for x1 or perhaps there is a better way for x1. On x1 if I created several folders I would have to go to
Disk
Files Choice
and select folder for each type of stuff
I assume you dont have to do this. ?????
I have been trying for nearly a year now to get to discuss this type of thing and nobody seems interested---
I see this a as great topic to open up as it could get us on to types dance etc and relevant tunes and registration of same plus share stuff. Pierce

Hi Scott,
sounds great. I'm at work right now, will e-mail you when I get home, wich will be late.
Eric

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Scottyee:
[B]... The word is: REGISTRATION MEMORY!
.... Also, don't worry about Registration Banks using up too much file space. You can store up to 800 files and folders in the PSR2000's USER memory. [QUOTE]

I believe the "800 files and folders" refers to how many will fix in the PSR's index of files and folders. That many may fit on a floppy, but not necessarily in USER memory. I made several Registration files and saved them to disk. The size varied between 10 and 13K. By contrast, a "style" could be much larger, 30-40K not being unusual. 30 files in user memory could use up the whole 580K of a PSR 2000. Users may soon find that storing a lot of stuff in User memory will eventually run into a message that tells you you are out of room when you try and save one more file. Thus, we will have to become clever about how we utilize that precious 580K.

In an earlier note, I mentioned that one could set up your own OTS settings. To do this, however, requires putting the style in user memory. If a registration is going to refer to the style, it must be in user memory, not on the floppy. I found a lot of the internal styles using the Hah Choir for the left hand voice and I prefer using a Piano for that voice. But if I changed the style setting, it would require saving that style to user area or floppy. I have discovered another alternative that seems to work just fine. I put the style in one of the 8 registration memory slots. From there I can adjust the left voice and adjust the balance for the various voices including all of the accompaniment voices, turning them on or off or adjusting the balance as desired. When I then call up this style from the registration memory, I can "freeze" the style and then that setup remains in place for all of the OTS settings provided with that style. In other words, if I set the left hand voice to "Grand Piano", it will be set to that in each of the OTS settings while the settings maintain the original main and layer voices. Therefore, with one registration setting, I have the style, with accompaniment adjusted to my taste, and five preset main voices (registration + four OTS)that can be used with any of the 4 style variations. Of course, if there are other main voices available in the other 7 registration postions, they would also be available at the touch of the button. I am still experimenting with this technique, but it does seem to provide a lot of bang for the limited "memory" buck.

One sorely missed feature on the PSR2000 is not being able to view/monitor (perhaps in a screen menu) the amount of USER memory 'being used' or 'how much' memory is still available. I wonder if it's possible for Yamaha to implement in an OS update?

Joe, your description of how Registration Bank files can be used to store 'customized' style settings as well as tying them with the OTS memory settings (via Freeze) re-interates exactly my point that 'Registration Bank' files are really the most important key to file management efficiency on the PSR2000.

In my PSR2000 keyboard setup, I configure the 'Registration Memory' feature in one of two ways:

1) Memory Bank (1-8) dedicated to ONE song: each button a different custom setup for each section of the song: AABA,solo,ABA.
2) Memory Bank (1-8) for a variety (set)of songs/styles: each button configured for a different song & style or, a medley of up to 8 different songs and styles.

- Scott