True. However, that does not eliminate the problem entirely.

1) One has to have a DAW with the correct digital I/O.

2) Even if one has the above, still one has to tranfer the tracks one by one. Unless you one can digitally transfer 8 tracks at the same time. Transferring stereo mix of tracks is not acceptable.

It seems to me it is both cheaper and easier to do it with a laptop.

Sk, Not really totally true here. From my AW I can burn the tracks as wav to a cd and load them into laptop in one shot. They do not need to be recorded track after track.

It really isn't any cheaper to do it on pc or lap. If one starts from scratch, then it will be more expensive to buy lap and software than one can get high quality h/d units for.

To make it as painless as possible with pc based recording to, the closer one can get to amking it a dedicated unit for music only the better off they are.
Terry


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Gary,
Once the sun comes up here, I will record a more direct comparison with the two methods, same short sequence and post them. I will let you all know when it is done so you can have a listen.

Terry

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Scott,
IMO if you plan to continue doing the type of work you are doing and from what I know of it....you like to set it all up in the Tyros, then one shot stereo tracks, I think you will find a dedicated hard disc recorder much more suited and far less hassle to deal with.
Terry

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Very interesting topic!

What I do (and have been doing for over a year and a half) is record directly into a Korg D1600 HD multitrack recorder (approx. $1400 USD now) after I get everything recorded (two synths plus vocals) I can then add effects (both insert for each track and master for the whole thing) and then bounce to two track stereo. After that, I burn to a CDRW and transport that to my laptop as a wave file where I use Sound Forge 6 and Wavelab 4 plus a number of DirectX plugins to edit/master each song and then burn them to CD using EZ CD Creator. I personally prefer to do the mixing on the D1600 because I like to use real faders instead of virtual faders on a computer screen. The only "live" mic work I do is the vocals and I use a cardiod condenser tube mic (SP TB-1 which I love and recommend; $300 USD)so I could use Sonar but I find it to be too much head hassle. With the D1600 it's simply push record and go, period; no pain, no strain.

The new Korg HD recorders all use USB connectors on the back (no more SCSI) and have a 2 gig partition on the HD that the computer can read directly, so you can transfer wave files directly between the recorder and computer. The new units also come with a 40 gig HD and can take a larger one, up to at least 80 gig.

The only reason I see for me to ever be interested in Sonar is to record midi so that I can either fix mistakes or can change instruments to see which I like better in any given song. Or, possibly, just to learn how for learning's sake.

Tom

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For anyone interested in the results of a direct sound comparison between the two methods, have a look at the A/B comparison thread I put up.
Terry

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Terry,

If they can be burn to a cd, each track individually, maybe then this is a good solution.

Imperfections can be a good thing. Make it too perfect and it can sound clinical or mechanical. There are imperections that obviously you should fix, but some imperfections just add character to the the music and should be left alone.

See, I told you my songs have some redeeming qualities to them. They abound with imperfections, albeit - they're probably the kind that should obviously be fixed though. Ha, Ha, LOL Practice! Practice! Practice! I'm workin' on it. Three years and counting... Keyboards, don't ya' just love em'..

Best regards,
Mike