Ok Brickboo,
I can see that there is no way we are ever going to agree on ANY of this. I don't know if you are being purposefully inflammatory or if it is just, as you indicated that you have not been overly educated. You have a perfect right to believe whatever you want to believe so let's just leave it at that.
Best wishes
Tony
[This message has been edited by Tony W (edited 01-16-2004).]