Tony & Bricaboo,
I understand where and why you are both coming from where you are. Both have good and valid points.

The only thing I will add to the discussion, is that people have proven they are not responsible enough to be left alone. Whether or not it's because they were raised wrong or peer pressure or whatever excuse one wants to make for being a jerk. Without rules and penalties for infraction of the rules, we would have chaos. One has seen that very clearly demonstrated everytime a riot has broken out, or druken college kids on spring break, people for the most part given half a chance cannot behave themselves. If they could we would not need laws or the constitution, courts, prisons, etc.

I do think though that you two without knowing it are actually debating different points rather than the simple question posed here, should TV be cleaned up.

There has to be an accepted code of conduct and morality that a society can agree on. In it's simpilest terms, we can all agree murder is wrong. We do not cry foul because there are laws and penalties for murdering someone. Of course vulgarity does not compare, but again we are back to an acceptable code of conduct.

I have to say that I am a bleeding heart liberal always was and always will be, however that does not mean anything can and should be ok. If TV or people cannot govern themselves then unfortunately it is then left to governments to step in and make people behave in an acceptable manner, which has to be determined by the majority of society. In essence we need to be protected from ourselves.

Right now my impression is the young kids are foul mouthed, totally unmotivated, with very little if any respect for anyone or anything (not all of course)and I blame the parents (not all, some do all the right things and their kids still turn out to be creeps or visa versa) who raised them for this poor behaviour. From my observations most parents can't be bothered being parents anymore.
Terry

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jam on,
Terry http://imjazzed.homestead.com/Index.html