It's your opinion that is has nothing to do with the subject. It may have to do with the degree to which basic values are conveyed. As I said in the other thread, religion CAN play a positive role in this respect, even if religion has often been abused. Why do you just say there is no connection to the shootings at all? Is it not allowed to discuss whether there is a connection? It's a mean reproach to say some users here "use" the shootings for their own agendas. Actually a totally inacceptable statement of yours. I don't think it's a fair way of discussing.