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#103328 - 11/15/04 03:24 PM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
Frank L. Rosenthal Offline
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Registered: 03/18/00
Posts: 1008
Vquestor, yes LiveSynth Pro will work well with Yamaha styles and midi files provided you have the XG Drums in bank 127. Alternatively, you can transpose the Yamaha styles and midi files to standard GM format using OMB and other available programs.

It may be possible to use VSampler to program GM drum kits or change them to XG drum kits. VSampler likes to work in GM format whereas Alive is specifically written for use in designing Soundfont sounds and wavetables. It is the best option if you don't have a Creative Soundcard - plus it is not very expensive.

I use one instance of LiveSynth Pro to play GM, GS or XG midi and style files and one instance of Kontakt to play premium melody or lead voices. In addition, I will load various GM/GS/XG wavetables into LiveSynth Pro to suit various styles of music. By now I have several hundred GM/GS/XG wavetables to choose from. If you like the the drums from HQ Hyper Canvas better then you can have one instance of it and set it up as you have proposed. Flexibility!!!!


[This message has been edited by Frank L. Rosenthal (edited 11-15-2004).]

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#103329 - 11/15/04 04:50 PM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
Vquestor Offline
Member

Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 554
Frank, thanks much for your reply.
What I guess I would really prefer, is to
not have to do any modifications to the
psr style files at all; so the same style
could work in both a PSR keyboard and the
software.
Am I correct in assuming that the special
XG drumkits on Bank 126 would also work
properly with LiveSynth?
BTW, I just tried a new editor in SynthFont9.9 called Viena(not Vienna).
It's a little tricky, since you can't delete
banks or change bank numbers once you set them and have to start over.
I'll probably end up getting
Alive, although I hate not seeing the
note#s.

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#103330 - 11/16/04 02:30 AM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
rikkisbears Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Vquestor,
I'm not sure I've got the full drift of this thread ( I'm on very limited time at the moment, ) but
I tend to think you will still need to do a bit of editing.
I tried to do something similar ie try to
get the soundfonts to sound similar to the xg sounds in my yamaha piano so that I could use the same style for omb & CLP170 ( xg sounds) OR omb with synergi fonts.
The most notable problem I had was with individual drum velocities. I then figured the best way around it was to edit the fonts. Haven't gotten round to it yet as I'm in the middle of packing up to move house, so I haven't been round much. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I'll have some spare time again.

best wishes
Rikki

Quote:
Originally posted by Vquestor:
Frank, thanks much for your reply.
What I guess I would really prefer, is to
not have to do any modifications to the
psr style files at all; so the same style
could work in both a PSR keyboard and the
software.
Am I correct in assuming that the special
XG drumkits on Bank 126 would also work
properly with LiveSynth?
BTW, I just tried a new editor in SynthFont9.9 called Viena(not Vienna).
It's a little tricky, since you can't delete
banks or change bank numbers once you set them and have to start over.
I'll probably end up getting
Alive, although I hate not seeing the
note#s.
_________________________
best wishes
Rikki 🧸

Korg PA5X 88 note
SX900
Band in a Box 2022

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#103331 - 11/16/04 06:16 AM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
Frank L. Rosenthal Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/18/00
Posts: 1008
Vquestor, I have not tested Bank 126 for Yamaha drums in LiveSynth Pro - but my guess is it will work - just a guess.

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#103332 - 11/16/04 05:21 PM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
Vquestor Offline
Member

Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 554
Quote:
Originally posted by rikkisbears:
Hi Vquestor,
I'm not sure I've got the full drift of this thread ( I'm on very limited time at the moment, ) but
I tend to think you will still need to do a bit of editing.
I tried to do something similar ie try to
get the soundfonts to sound similar to the xg sounds in my yamaha piano so that I could use the same style for omb & CLP170 ( xg sounds) OR omb with synergi fonts.
The most notable problem I had was with individual drum velocities. I then figured the best way around it was to edit the fonts. Haven't gotten round to it yet as I'm in the middle of packing up to move house, so I haven't been round much. Hopefully in the next couple of weeks I'll have some spare time again.

best wishes
Rikki



Rikki,
Yes, you got it, I want to make a full
master drum soundfont. And eventually, with the highest quality sounds possible.
There probably will always be some tweaking
needed(as there are thousands of PSR styles
out there). If you can adjust your soundfont
volume levels to accommodate your styles,
as you say, I agree that it would be the best
option.

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#103333 - 11/16/04 05:40 PM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
Vquestor Offline
Member

Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 554
Quote:
Originally posted by Frank L. Rosenthal:
Vquestor, I have not tested Bank 126 for Yamaha drums in LiveSynth Pro - but my guess is it will work - just a guess.


Thanks Frank,
I hope so. Is the easiest way to analyze
and modify a style(bank#'s etc.) OMB or one
of the Bedesem programs?

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#103334 - 11/17/04 05:49 AM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
Frank L. Rosenthal Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 03/18/00
Posts: 1008
Vquestor, both approaches work well. I would say that OMB is more automated whereas using M. Bedesem's program with Cakewalk let's you do the more detailed changes yourself. So I think it depends what you are trying to do - level of detail.

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#103335 - 12/11/04 11:19 PM Re: Vienna Soundfont Studio
rikkisbears Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Vquestor,
wondering how you went. I haven't had the internet for a few weeks since we moved. Finally I'm back online.

I've decided to actually just edit the styles as required. I've collected so many over the years it would be hard to know where to start. I'm using omb software as my style editor as well as arranger. Haven't quite decided yet whether to use the synergi fonts for the styles or Hypercanvas. The latter will require changing the drum sets from xg to gm. Sometimes I think it would be easier to just have them as gm.

best wishes
Rikki

Quote:
Originally posted by Vquestor:
Rikki,
Yes, you got it, I want to make a full
master drum soundfont. And eventually, with the highest quality sounds possible.
There probably will always be some tweaking
needed(as there are thousands of PSR styles
out there). If you can adjust your soundfont
volume levels to accommodate your styles,
as you say, I agree that it would be the best
option.

_________________________
best wishes
Rikki 🧸

Korg PA5X 88 note
SX900
Band in a Box 2022

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