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#105582 - 09/17/02 08:53 AM
Re: An afternoon with KN7000
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Junior Member
Registered: 08/29/02
Posts: 27
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Uncle Dave and Fran,
Thanks for your review of the KN7000. I always value the opinion of a real musician. I was wondering if you were able to, or would be able to actually compare the different keyboards (PA80, KN7000, 9000Pro) side-by-side. The reason I ask is, I've been using the KN6500 for over a year and I agree that some of the drum kits are very synthetic sounding, but others are, in my opinion as realistic as I've ever heard. I've only spent a few hours on the PA-80 and although it's a great board, I thought the KN6500 was a little better, but I never heard them side-by-side, nor did I have the time to really check out every drum kit or sound. The only way to really compare is to listen side-by-side. The problem is, I haven't found anyone that carries Technics and the others.
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#105583 - 09/17/02 12:03 PM
Re: An afternoon with KN7000
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Steven, The Korg drums are as good as it gets. If I had to rate all three it'd be in this order: 1)PA80/Ketron 2)Roland VA 3)Yamaha 4)All the rest
As for patterns - I prefer the straight-a-headness of the Yamaha to all the rest. The XD9/SD1 sounds terrific, but they still have a weird way of advancing the variations. Sometimes (within a style) A is best followed by C and B is best followed by D. You can't just step through at a graduated pace like on the Yamaha. Korg is at fault here too. Too busy, too incoherent.
Of your three choices - I've owned all but the 7000, and I think as an overall package, the 9000pro is the best.(feature wise) The absence of speakers (9k) makes the PA80 my next choice. The kn stuff will never be in my rig unless major drum revoicing is done, and the simple chord fingering is changed to include a basic "root" plus "third" = chord. None of this weird "one black to the left is minor" stuff. I hate the thought of using three fingers all night - it's not the way I learned, because I usually play the bass manually. Lately, I've been playing live bass and triggering the arranger with the right hand a lot more. The XD9 calls it "Bassist" feature, and the Yamaha can't do it, from what I've seen. Chord recognition is only dedicated to the left hand, I think.
Too bad you can't get to try them all at once .... they are all very good keyboards, in their own right. My impression of the 7000 suggests that previous owners will be glad to shell out the cash for this new model, based on the USB, SD card, and overall LOOKS and power of the sound.
For a plare that was used to working with quality synths in the past - the 9k is a dream machine. Tough, rugged and loaded with playable features that really WORK. The PA80 is about midway between the two. It's powerful, and sounds great, but the feel is not as solid as the 9k, and the "glitz" of the 7k is missing. (silly stuff like multi pads that play phrases.) However - NONE of the others has a better sequence player than the Korg - Two independant sequencers - flawless operation so far too. You've got choices, my friend - but it's better than NOT having any, right?
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#105587 - 09/17/02 01:36 PM
Re: An afternoon with KN7000
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Senior Member
Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
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Steven, I will not seriously consider ANY keyboard that does not have built in speakers. The Tyros "add on" feature does not qualify in my book. It's just more stuff to lug, hook up, deal with, repair, etc If i was set up more than a job at a time, maybe I'd rethink the issue, but as long as I do so many one night stands - it's not in the cards. I need light. I need fast. The rest is easy .... making the music is the best part. Setting up is what the client actually PAYS for. As a matter of fact.... I really play for free, but the setup charge is what gets ya ! Peter, I honestly don't know WHAT'S up with Johnny. he just came out of his corner swinging one day. It'd be different if he actually ever HELPED anyone, instead of all the sour grapes he dishes out. I can't be bothered by every one who's panties get in a whirl every time I give advice. You can take it or leave it - it's your choice. Most people appreciate the effort, so I'll keep the words flowing as long as I have an opinion to share. I won't let the insignificant ravings of one person affect my day. Not if I can help it, anyway. Life's too short to argue about nothing.
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