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#106889 - 12/13/06 11:32 AM Ketron SD5 First Impression!
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Well, here I go again. This is getting to be fun! First the Korg PA800 2 weeks ago and now the Ketron SD5.
I want to start off by going back to last year at the NAMM show when I thought this keyboard was going to be going up against the Yamaha PSR3000 and I heard the retail price was going to be around $2995.00 and I thought this was to high because of the $1795.00 price of the PSR3000. I only saw a prototype they were showing and until today I had no idea what the content of this new model would contain. At NAMM, Ketron only had 2 or 3 working styles in the machine and I thought the sounds sounded just like the SD1. Today, almost one year later, I have a different oppinion!
First, this thing is built like a tank. It is rather heavy for it's size and slim design. The weight is 37.4 lbs. Actually, that doesn't sound so bad but I guess I'm getting used to the lighter PSR's and the new korg PA800 which are all under 30 lbs.
Next, the buttons and layout look impressive. Nice square and rectangular shapes, but I wish they would have put lighted buttons for the style catagories so I knew which catagory a style I was currently playing came from. The Korg PA80 and PA1X has the same problem, but the PA800 has added the lights in the middle of the catagory buttons. The funny thing is that they have these lights in the middle of the voice catagory buttons and other buttons as well. This is not a big complaint just a wish list item.
I like that there is a speaker on and off switch on the back, but be careful because mine was shipped with the button in the "off" position and I thought the unit was broken!
Next to the speaker on and off is a dedicated Microphone out 1/4" jack and there are sustain pedal and volume pedal 1/4" jacks, and next to this is the connection for the Ketron 6 or 12 pedal unit. Stereo Outputs, Optional Video out slot and power switch round out the back panel.........OH! ONE MORE THING.........There is a "host" computer round interface jack which Ketron has been so kind as to include in the box an interface cable which will also provide a special additonal cable to plug into a USB port on your computer! Thank you for adding this. I had been concerned that this model didn't support USB interfacing and I see they did something about this!

The keys feel great and there is a button for aftertouch on and off. The keys feel like those on the SD1 with semi weighted keys. There is also a feature which allows you to use aftertouch to trigger on the style and it will allow the aftertouch to trigger fill ins as well.

Here's where this review gets subjective. If you loved the SD1 sounds, you surely will love the SD5. Unlike Yamaha, Roland and Korg, Ketron doesn't use all the velocity levels to add in the "extra" sounds you hear when you play the acoustic guitars and other sounds in the other brands in their most recent models. This is not to say the sounds aren't top notch, they just don't behave in the same manner. For example, if you play the user program called "nylon guitar", if you hit the octave up key and play high up on the keyboard you will hear squeeks and fret noise like on a real guitar. But, this is not like playing in the middle of say the Yamaha or Korg PA800 and playing harder and softer you are creating the realistic sounds of a guitar. Nobody can add the squeeks and buzzes with two hands playing the guitar. However, in the styles, Ketron is producing these sounds because I'm sure they used a computer and were able to multi track record all these nuances into their style arranger.
It's much like when Yamaha released the Tyros keyboard and gave us mega voices which were too hard to play but oh they really gave you great realistic styles.
But, the sounds are really good. Those that love Ketron Saxs, Strings, Accordions, Brass, etc. will surely love this board.

Styles are also each individuals taste and I happen to love Ketron Styles. There are many that I am familiar with from the SD1 and many new ones. They all sound very good to me.

Sequencer, again only a one track song record. This is not a board for someone who wants to do multitrack recording on the keyboard. You can do your recording in a computer software program. It does has a pattern record mode where you can make your own patterns from scratch or load new ones in.

It is a players keyboard! There is a rotary organ with virtual drawbars, a dedicated rotor on and off button and a dedicated slow and fast button.

The familiar jump button and the 4 variation buttons are all here. There is a new feature called "RIFF" over the 4th variation button.
It's very cool. If the style is marked with an "R" in the middle of the display and you play a chord using variation 1,2 or 3 and hit the button that is now flashing (4) the chord you play becomes the key you will be in and the keyboard starts playing different chord choices that match that key and all differnt style parts. When I used the Funky1 style, I hit a CMAJ chord and let it fly.......First I heard some very cool variations in the key of C and then brass started to come in, and the drummer started to "drive" and the bass parts started to play really funky and this continued until I returned to variation 1,2 or 3 and started playing my own chords. There are dozens of these styles and it is really fun for someone like me who's not a very good player and I love to just solo with my right hand. It's sort of like the Roland Chord Sequencer except that I don't get to control what the chord progression is.

I also really like the 16 little buttons just above the pitch bend/modulation lever which allow me to program them to be drum sounds turned on and off while the style is playing, special effect sounds, quarter tone tuning, or any function the 13 pedal unit is capable of doing. This is great for the performing musicians. And all the buttons have lights just above them to know what you've selected.

Well, do I think this keyboard is now worth about $2500.00..........YES. It is much more Professionally designed and built than say the PSR3000 or Korg PA50. I can honestly say I am very impressed compared to the way I saw one last year. Now, Ketron, give me an oriental version of this board for my middle eastern customers and we will be thrilled!


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George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com
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#106890 - 12/13/06 11:59 AM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Wow! I've got a couple of other things to add already! If you go to the button called "select mode" which is right to the right of those little 16 buttons which are assignable above the joy stick, in the screen you will see in the upper right hand corner a box called "registration group". If you select this and turn on the "registration button" for those of you familiar with Ketron (like performance memory on Roland and Korg and Registration memory on Yamaha) you will now see on the bottom half of the screen 1 of 10 bank catagories which you change by using the style catagory buttons right below the screen and then you will see the names of 16 registration at a time in these 10 banks. You simply change the registration which has a name or number, your choice, by pushing on one of the 16 little buttons above the joy stick. What a great feature. In all other Ketron's this was hard because you could never see a group of registration to change easily.
I also need to mention that the lack of a light within the catagory buttons for styles is not necessary because as in the past with all the Ketrons, when you select a style to play you see the style name on the screen and the catagory it came from just below it. Sorry for the misinformation. More to discover!
All I can say is that I just received 3 and I just called to order more!
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
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#106891 - 12/13/06 12:00 PM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
George thanx for the review.......btw how do the speakers sound? can you load all the SD-1 styles into the SD5?

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#106892 - 12/13/06 12:01 PM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
RIFF MODE........
When you enter Riff mode, the computer within the keyboard recognizes how you are playing. If you play fewer notes it plays less "stuff" and if you play more notes or faster it adds all these little "riffs" or more complex tracks within the style. Very Cool!
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#106893 - 12/13/06 12:47 PM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
Donny,
Speakers are really nice. Loud and punchy. I haven't tried any SD1 styles yet. I will do so later. There's alot to try on this board. I just spoke with AJ and he gave me some tips regarding the Riff mode. I can actually go into the Interactive mode and check any one or all of the 5 chord tracks and so when I start playing my right hand, some or all of the tracks will go away until I stop playing and then they will return.


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George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com
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Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
West Hills, California
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#106894 - 12/13/06 03:16 PM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
DNJ, Fran and UD should have one of these by the end of the month and provide us with more reviews...

Cheers,

Gary

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#106895 - 12/13/06 05:20 PM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
I have loaded SD1 Styles, X1 styles and MS50 styles and they all load and play great. On the old XD9 if you wanted to load SD1 styles you had to go through a process of first taking the styles from the internal memory into the pattern record mode and then going through a copy routine and then saving them onto a floppy before loading them into an XD9, but the SD5 can read any format of Ketron Styles.
I also just found out that the SD5 has a sub woofer inside so this is why I hear such nice tight bass.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
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Kaye's Music Scene (Closed after 51 years)
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#106896 - 12/14/06 02:25 AM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
Graham UK Offline
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Registered: 01/20/01
Posts: 1925
Loc: Lincolnshire UK
George. Your Product reviews are very informative and welcome. I do like to keep up to date with products I have not owned.

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#106897 - 12/14/06 04:04 AM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
DNJ, Fran and UD should have one of these by the end of the month


Hey Gary,
Can I borrow a couple of thousand bucks ?

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#106898 - 12/14/06 04:50 AM Re: Ketron SD5 First Impression!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
DNJ, Fran and UD should have one of these by the end of the month and provide us with more reviews...

Cheers,

Gary



The fact that is has SPEAKERS is a big PLUS to start out with......the rest will have to be discovered......very soon.....
another Dave Fran...road trip?

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