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#110848 - 10/20/03 08:59 AM Re: Evaluation of the Motif ES - Not really an arranger but...
Uncle Dave Offline
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What are you saying, Boo?
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#110849 - 10/20/03 09:35 AM Re: Evaluation of the Motif ES - Not really an arranger but...
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Loc: Tampa, FL
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Originally posted by The Pro:
I've ordered my PLG150-PF piano expansion card for my Mo ES because I am one of those that dislikes the new triple-strike acoustic piano on the Mo ES (I find I'm not alone on that).


Uh Oh,

One of the primary reasons I was considering the MO ES was for the supposed outstanding triple strike piano. I wanted a MO ES 8 for the keyboard action for practicing and conditioning. I've played the Fantom-S 88 and the P250 and both of those have outstanding Key action and Piano patches that would suit me fine.

Now I'm skeptical about the ES, I'm going to have to go play that puppy and find if it's to my liking.

Keep the reviews coming....
Al
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#110850 - 10/20/03 10:41 AM Re: Evaluation of the Motif ES - Not really an arranger but...
The Pro Offline
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Registered: 07/09/02
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Al: definitely play the Motif ES before buying if the piano sound is a major feature. Some people rave over the Mo ES piano so it's a very subjective thing. I'm highly critical over the upper midrange sounds which I think are thin and lack overtones, but others differ. As to the action of the Motif ES 8 - it's the best I've ever felt. I haven't heard anyone complain about the Motif ES 8 action yet.

As to the sax sounds - it's true, I've played with many sax players and I've never heard a keyboard emulation of a saxaphone that does the sax justice.
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#110851 - 10/20/03 12:26 PM Re: Evaluation of the Motif ES - Not really an arranger but...
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Al, Pro is right. Try it for yourself and see. I happen to be one of those that likes the Motif Piano sound, but if I didn't, I'd just go get the Piano plug in board and avoid the Fantom at all costs. The electric piano sounds / organs and guitar emulations in the Fantom do not please me at all.

I'm glad that I like the Motif's piano voices anyway, because I want the third expansion slot to go to a different plug in. It will probably be the drums or the DX7 emulator.. not sure yet. I have xg voices in my SY100xg software sound module, and unless polyphony really becomes an issue again, I don't want to waste a plug in slot for XG voices, many of which I don't really want to use anyway. The VL150 and AN150 modeling boards are in the ES to stay, which leaves me with only one slot to fill.

Yep, very hard to emulate a good sax sound. Aside from having the real thing, the VL150 plug in with a breathe controller does it about as well as anything else I've ever heard, including those Yamaha sweet voices. It's a whole separate skill to learn to incorporate the breathe control with what you are playing.

AJ
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