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#115112 - 08/23/06 04:23 PM Style event editing on the PSR-3000
MarcK Offline
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Registered: 07/27/01
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I want to edit specific events (notes, control changes, etc.) in a style. On the "EDIT" tab page of the style creator mode on the PSR-3000, it seems that no matter what, it is always set to one of the drum tracks. How on earth do I specify a different style track to edit? Am I missing something or is this a major glitch in the OS? Thanks for your help!

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#115113 - 08/23/06 05:33 PM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
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No glitch...sounds like you are trying to edit a factory style.

You must record(play in) your own style parts before you can edit them.

Only part of a factory style that can be edited is the drums.

Ian

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#115114 - 08/23/06 06:24 PM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
MarcK Offline
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Registered: 07/27/01
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Thanks for the reply. That's annoying. It's not as if you can't edit it on a PC anyway. And it seems inconsistent to allow access to a drum track.

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#115115 - 08/23/06 06:34 PM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
Bluezplayer Offline
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Ian,

It doesn't matter that much to me because I prefer to edit either via real time playing, or in a piano roll ( which of course leads me to work in an external sequencer )... but it does bring up a question or two.

Couldn't we simply edit one little thing somewhere on the factory style, say add a meaningless CC, and then save it as a user style? Question 2.. after that, would we then be able to edit the non drum parts inside of the T2 ?
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#115116 - 08/23/06 06:38 PM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
ianmcnll Offline
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Yeah, I agree with you...it is rather annoying, and since I do all my style making on the keyboard, it is a limitation, to say the least


Even if you take parts from one style and put them in another(style assembly), you still can't edit.

I'd like to see them upgrade it, since it's hardly changed much since the PSR-8000.

All the best,

Ian

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#115117 - 08/23/06 06:51 PM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by Bluezplayer:
Ian,

It doesn't matter that much to me because I prefer to edit either via real time playing, or in a piano roll ( which of course leads me to work in an external sequencer )... but it does bring up a question or two.

Couldn't we simply edit one little thing somewhere on the factory style, say add a meaningless CC, and then save it as a user style? Question 2.. after that, would we then be able to edit the non drum parts inside of the T2 ?


I haven't tried that out, as I usually use onboard Style Assembly and Groove/Dynamics to get what I want.

I think the part has to be played in for editing to be allowed, at least within Style Creator.

Perhaps if it were changed in an external sequencer and saved it may allow you to edit.

I don't use anything other than Style Creator, so I don't know the answer.

Hope you're enjoying your T2.I simply love mine.

Ian




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#115118 - 08/23/06 08:36 PM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Marc,
unfortunately software is the only way to step edit style parts other than drums.
To my dismay, I discovered that a few years back when I bought my 9000pro, I didn't read the manual correctly before I bought it, I thought I could step edit all the parts.
I use OMB ( stylemaker section) for editing my psr styles (for use with OMB software. )Not sure how it works with megavoices though?? http://www.1manband.nl/omb.htm

Michaels software may work for you, but I think you also need a sequencer that supports casms??
http://www.svpworld.com/util_stylemaker.htm

Not familiar with Jorgen's software but he may also have a program that edits.
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/


best wishes
Rikki
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#115119 - 08/24/06 04:05 AM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
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Although, that can be done on the Genesys.

You can edit each midi event of each style track.
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#115120 - 08/24/06 05:24 AM Re: Style event editing on the PSR-3000
Michael P. Bedesem Offline
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Registered: 11/26/99
Posts: 142
Loc: Shrewsbury, VT
There is a setting in the Casm that, when enabled, will allow tracks to be edited on the PSR if there is only one track per part. The program StyleEdit will allow this code to be enabled.

However, almost all modern styles use more than one track for each part. The tracks are played depending upon the type of chord (major, minor, etc). For these styles, you need to edit the style in a sequencer. My program StyleMaker will allow the styles to be edited in Cakewalk, Power Tracks, etc and retain the original Casm. Alternatively, you can use the program CasmEdit. This does not require a sequencer.

Regards,

Michael

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