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#118046 - 06/12/05 05:24 PM
Re: Bose PAS first night out...
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Scott,
The Bose sub is a bit smaller, and it does not move as much air because it's not a long-throw sub like the Z-5500. The 5500 really rocks, especially when you want a gut-thumping bass to kick-start the dancing crowd.
If I can find a few free hours this week I'll A/B them to see which one does the best. I suspect the Logitech will win out in this category because of the design.
I'm still tuning and tweaking things for the Bose, and the way it now sounds I believe I'll have everything the way I want it in the next few days. When I get done, I'll post the results and settings that work best for me.
Cheers,
Gary
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#118048 - 06/12/05 08:28 PM
Re: Bose PAS first night out...
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Phil, The big advantage with the Bose PAS is the volume is nearly the same everywhere in the venue. I hope to put this to the real test next week if possible, at a hall that can seat 600 or more people. I'm going to offer to perform free for a group of about 250 line dancers, folks that usually rely on a standard sound system and CDs for their line dancing classes. If it works the way I believe it will, then the Bose will stay and the Barbetta Sona 32-Cs will go. I don't know how Bose has been able to accomplish their nearly equal distribution of sound throughout the room, but it is absolutely incredible from both the entertainer and audience standpoint. More to come, Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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#118049 - 06/13/05 04:05 AM
Re: Bose PAS first night out...
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Registered: 09/21/02
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Loc: Port Charlotte,FL,USA
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I just got my B1 Bose bass module to AB it with my Z5500 sub( I bought my PAS with the intentions of using my existing one). As the tech guys at Bose told me,there is no comparison.I think it has to do with the crossover network.For me,the Z5500 sub was much more dominant on it's own system,as is the B1 on the Bose system.
Gary You play out more in different venues and am looking forward to your assessment. As it stands now,I am goin 100% Bose and will sell my Z5500,or use it on my computer instead of my Z2200. Bernie
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#118050 - 06/13/05 06:28 AM
Re: Bose PAS first night out...
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Bernie,
What are you going to use as a backup system if the Bose fails. I was thinking along the same lines, however, as you know I have a backup for every piece of equipment--including the amps.
Gary
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#118051 - 06/13/05 08:18 AM
Re: Bose PAS first night out...
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You have a point,my friend. Bernie
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#118053 - 06/14/05 07:21 AM
Re: Bose PAS first night out...
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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Yesterday, I managed to solve the piano sounds problem by not using the PSR-3000's live grand piano, but instead using the GM grand piano and tuning it the way I wanted it to sound. It tok a bit of work, but it was well worth the effort. Additionally, I find that running the L/R out and the R out into two separate channels on the Bose PAS seems to provide me with a greater depth and quality of sound than just running from the L/R channel alone. Next, I also changed both my overall EQ settings and mic settings to accommodate the Bose PAS, and now everything sounds great. As I said on the outset, every system is different and must be treated accordingly. Now I have two USER EQ settings saved in the PSR-3000--one for the Bose PAS and one for the Logitech Z-5500 system. Both sound excellent to myself, my spouse, my daughter, and most of all to my audiences. I believe the important thing to keep in mind that the entire setup is a complete sound system, and each component must be properly tuned to acheive the ultimate performance. This includes everything from the mic right down to the PA's speaker EQs. Everything must be balanced just right, but keep in mind that some of this can change with differences in room configurations, overall venue size, crowd noise, etc. Nothing is written in stone, and there are no global settings with any of this equipment where you can just set it and forget it. Cheers, Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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