To all Tyros expert, does anybody know how to set up keyboard's aftertouch to bend note. I could not find it under aftertouch menu, thanks for any info.

Tye

I don't own the Tyros, but if that's an option (which if it is... may I say a damn cool option) you'd need to look into your manual regarding "aftertouch" parameter settings. There are quite a few Tyros owners here who could help you there. The Tyros is on my list for consideration for my new set up.

Squeak

Squeak, yes it's the option on a lot of models, some does sound better than other. And yes it's a cool option especially for me, since that's how I bend the note up or down( program differently). My SD1 has it, but does not sound quite as good as Roland XP to my ears.

Tye

I used to have an XP and now that you mention it I think I do recall playing with that setting. Which one did you have? I had the 60. Wanted the 80 but was out of my budget at the time.

That's cool the Tyros has this option. The Tyros looks more and more like the board I'm going to buy for my new set up. It's got great sounds, and killer features.

Squeak

Hi,

According to the manual, in order to control pitch via aftertouch, you must first go to the Sound Creator and edit an existing sound to respond to aftertouch and assign aftertouch to pitch. Then set the aftertouch amount under Function/Controller/Panel Controller. However looking through the manual there doesn't appear to be a parameter for Aftertouch -> Pitch Bend. “?”

FYI- This is similar to what can be done on the Genesys to assign pitch to aftertouch. I have a guitar patch that I created that has a lead guitar that bends via the Pitch Bend wheel in the normal way. But when a high velocity is used on the keyboard, this brings in another lead guitar sound that is pitched 1 step below the initial guitar sound. Then aftertouch is assigned to only that second sound and is programmed to bend its pitch up to become unison with the initial sound. Makes for a great way to do unison bends ala Carlos Santana.

Best Regards,

Dave


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Wm. David McMahan
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Tye, as Dave correctly stated, there's no way (on the Tyros & I believe the PSR3000/2000 as well) to assign 'pitch bend' to keyboard aftertouch. The only way to produce (while playing live) a pitch bend, is from the pitch wheel itself, or assigning pitch bend to one of the Tyros' three assignable footpedals.

Function: Controller > Foot Pedal Tab

Foot Pedal 1, 2, or 3:
Function > select 'Pitch Bend'

Scott

Or you could get a device from MIDI Solutions that converts incoming MIDI CC numbers. Then use MIDI OUT A into the device, let the device turn aftertouch data into pitch bend data and bring that back in on MIDI INPUT B. This would work provided the Tyros has the necessary MIDI configuration possibilities.

Or you could just get used to the pitch bend wheel.

Good luck,

Dave


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Wm. David McMahan
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Generalmusic USA
GEM Community Forums

Or you can trade the Tyros in on a Genesys Pro or G70..

BTW, Roland use to have a higher bit resolution for the pitch bend control,,,than the competition...
Maybe that is why the XP sounds better..

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Wm. David McMahan
Nat'l Product and Support Manager
Generalmusic USA
GEM Community Forums

Thanks for all your answer;
Dave and Scott,
what a bummer that Yamaha did not allow you to do this, I know you can do this with their Synth. I do like the sound and style of Tyros, I have it for 7 months now, but it's because some of little things here and there that keep me from using it for gig, I keep using SD1 for style and sounds and XP60 for alternate solo voice and string, just to keep things fresh ( at least, to me). But I feel more sastisfy playing piano, Rhodes, and organ sound with both hands on one keyboard. So thanks to Dave and Scott for your knowledge.

Squeaky,
yes I have XP60 it still works fine, I like the warmness of Roland Strings the most.

Fran,
thanks for your suggestion, the thought cross my mind, because Both G70 and PA1X Pro must be at least good keyboard. Again, I love Tyros sound and style, but I like my arranger to have seperate Fill and Variation buttons, and a reset button is a must, looks like PA1X pro have these functions, but thier price is so high, don't kow how to explain to my wife, so I just keep thinking about it then.

Tye

Dave,
I know, somehow, I just have a crazy Idea that I like to feel my left hand holding chords all the time, plus I feel more of a physical contact like when you bend the guitar string up as well, told you it was crazy. By the way I read all your post here, very informative, thanks!

Tye

One potential problem is that aftertouch is active across the entire keyboard, even if it is doing something to only one zone, so as you play perhaps a little heavier on the left hand, whether you like it or not, it's going to pitch up the right hand notes a little (or a lot!). I really like aftertouch for vibratos (especially if you can adjust rate as well as depth with aftertouch) but have never managed to successfully ACCURATELY bend solos with AT.

If you absolutely can't take your left hand off the keyboard to use the pitch lever, the footpedal is probably your best bet, BUT........... (and I don't know of anyone that makes one) you REALLY need to have it spring back to fully up when you take your foot off it, or your part(s) will end up out of tune!!

Anyone out there ever come across a spring loaded Controller pedal??

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Diki:
[B]One potential problem is that aftertouch is active across the entire keyboard, even if it is doing something to only one zone, so as you play perhaps a little heavier on the left hand, whether you like it or not, it's going to pitch up the right hand notes a little (or a lot!).
Dikki,
Not really, on both my one time Korg I3 and SD1, I split the keyboard for arranger chord on the left hand, and do after touch on the right, and it does not affect the chord part at all. But mainly I tend to use after touch on my non arranger more, and yes it's good for adding vibrato or even Wah wah as well, not so good on switching slow to fast leslie.

Tye

As I recall, you can turn the auto-fill function off on the Tyros. Then it doesn't automatically fill before changing variations, but it will still fill to self when pushing a variation button that is already active.
DonM

I just remembered, some of the new Sustain pedals (like Roland DP-8) have a Controller mode for half-pedal effects on pianos etc., but if you have a spare input and can route Foot Controller to Pitch UP, you now have a spring returned, foot operated Pitch Bend Lever............. YEAH!!

I agree with you there Tye. I particularly like to assign pitch bend to the keyboard when playing an Acoustic Bass sound; it really adds that little bit of extra realism.

Andrew, to me the note bending aftertouch fells more sastisfy, and you can program to have it bend up or down depends on the characteristic of the instrument that you try to immitate;