Having identity issues, my neurotic friend????????

Scott, I must agree with you, but the Korg PA80 is also very light. I forget the actual weight, but I think it is close to the 2000.
Don

Uncle Dave,
"Don't be cruel, to a heart that's true."
Don

Identity issues? Who me?

Arranger friends!
This is reply no 14.
How to get a flame next to your topic?
Just start a "Best Arranger" thread.
Currently it seems that everyone accepts the differences and preferences of each individual, something the humour above shows.
Weight? I don't worry about it, others do.
PSR 2000, no harddisk, I'm a guitarplayer, gotta have it. That's why 9000 is the board for me. Use the keys for waltzes, marches and sing-alongs during weddings and anniversaries, etc. Use the sequencer and styles to make my own midifiles. Just a great board for me! Different (key)strokes for different folks!
Love you all!
Roy-Andrè

The policy for pricing Yamaha products on the internet is to not list anything less then map (minimum advertized price). However, if you contanct the store you are interested in buying from, you might find the price lower. The map price for the PSR2000 is $1195.00. The MSLP (manufactures suggested list price) is $1495.00. Back in March, Yamaha ran a special on the PSR2000 and I was selling them for much less then the map price, however, that deal ended March 31 and the prices went back to the original deal. I wish I could have bought more then I did! If you want my best price, please call me at my store.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566

Yes, the PA80 is relatively light at 13.9 kg (30.6 lbs), but the PSR2000 is lighter at: 10.5 kg (23 lbs). The primary reason I (personally) never considered the PA80 is because of its limited chord recognition abilities. With a background in acoustic jazz piano & someone who likes to play jazz style chord (comping) voicings, I've been very disappointed that Korg, Roland, and GEM never implemented jazz chord voicing recognition to their arrangers, as Yamaha, Technics, and Solton have. I also think that the PSR2000's acoustic piano sample(though not perfect) is significantly better than on the PA80.

Getting back to Newbie2's original question regarding the BEST arranger for Rap. I'm not into rap, but I 'can' say, that the PSR2000 is very weak in this dept. - Scott

Uh is it just me or did anyone notice the word rap in the question.

Ok arrangers are cool and all but they are not used commonly in hip hop production. Sort of the wrong tool for the job if you structure your rap the musique conrete manner (found sounds sampled - mostly found in the composers record collection). Not to say that it is not possible but more hip hop or rap I hear from arrangers sound like it is from an arranger and is normally pretty weak as far as that style of music is concerned. But this is a personal pref.

Might it be better to make some of the mention of gear that is proven to be pillars in hip hop production like an MPC series, ASR, EPS, SP1200, and just about any other sampler.

They are just some of the equipment you find people who make this music use. (not to say jump on the band wagon, I personally prefer my kurzweils myself)

It seems the computer is the best in road to this type of compsition style these days, and much can be done with fruity loops and Taureg as examples at the fraction of the cost if you own a PC and often with better results.

just a thought

Hi Scottyee.

The surgery changed my mind.
Now,my dream Kb have:
The weight of 9000.
The touch screen and varyphrase of VA7
The size of 9000Pro.
The chord recognition of PA80 and Technics.
The navigation and OS of Ketron.
The voices (sax,piano,clarinet,etc) of MZ2000.
The Upgrade sis. of Psr2000.
The modulation and pitch ball of Gem.
The price of Abacus.
Chico

Right Chico! I think they may have accidently misadusted your brain while you were in the hospital!
But I'm glad to see they left your sense of humor intact.
DonM