.. do you know something better from Korg or Roland that is below $1000? (76-88 keys)
That has better Piano sample than NP-30 or YPG-525(DGX-520)? (NP-30 isn't flawless )

Why not consider a used Roland G1000...that meets your criteria..

hey fran, how would you compare the g1000 against the sd1+?
dennis

To be honest, and after having had one for eight years, I don't think I would put the G1000's piano sound up against most modern pianos. It IS a good sound, but first and foremost, it is a panned mono piano sound, not a true stereo sample, like the NP and YPGs. These, IMO, make for a far more realistic playing experience, a feeling of truly sitting down in front of a real piano (at least to a certain extent!) than any mono sample set.

Of course, with a G1000, you get a great keybed and a great arranger thrown in, but if the piano sound is your primary focus, I'm not so sure it would improve things for you.

Dennis ..as you know the SD1+ has more features and the bass and drums are hard to beat,,even with current boards.

I disagree with Diki , on the pianos..There are enough pianos , namely the default piano, European piano, and E11 piano..they work well, and yes they are better than the PSR pianos...stereo or not...and no phase problems..

I can't think of another[arranger] board that can be found under a thousand dollars that I would take before the G1000..

Quality, and key feel count big time in my book..

thanks guys, i wanted to know because there is one going on ebay out here (Oz) for $800 AUS (about 750US) and i have heard so many good things about it.pianos are not really an issue as i have a Motif ES Rack...what i do want is great key feel and a solid arranger.as midis make up about 65% of what i do .....i just need a half decent arranger for those odd moments(the sd1+, good as it is has really light "synthy" keys, about on a par with the pa800/tyros beds, imo)....the only problem is getting any sort of reaistic sale price for the sd1+, but i guess at the price the g1000 could be an addition to the sd1 not replace it...
thanks again
dennis

[This message has been edited by miden (edited 08-28-2007).]

I'd go with the DGX-520...great action, though not weighted, full 88 keys, Live! Grand sound is superb.

I too was disappointed in the NP-30's piano...there is noise as Squeak reported...not a lot, and the sound seems thin in the range from middle "C" to the "C" above...if your looking for a really great piano sound, the NP-30 won't do it, although it's a fine instrument for the price.

Good luck on your quest.

Ian

Sorry, Creepy... I didn't get from your post you were looking for an arranger... Yes, a used G1000 is a great buy (especially with a MotifES Rack to accompany it, miden!), but I might look, eventually, at adding a Sonic Cell to go along with it if you want a killer piano sound...

yeah,my bad too creepy, didnt mean to alter the focus of your thread..
dennis