Regards Brothers, who of these two keyboards has sounds more authentic? Has it better sound of piano the Yamaha?
Thank you
Alex from Spain!

There is no kb better than other one. It depends what you want more.
For ex., Korg has better key feel. Yam has better screen. Korg has (IMO) better styles. Yamaha has better support on the net...
About piano sound, it is difficult to say. Try it yourself, it is the better way.

Piano sounds are way too subjective. Some like Steinway, some like Yamaha, some like Baldwin ....... you just have to listen and decide.

Yam PSR 1500-piano(which is regular) -more or less same as their new 200$ psr 29X series.not as good as dgx 305,505(which have LIVE! warm grand).
but the good news in 1500 is it has same simutaneous EFX like 3k so you can EQ it to get relatively acceptable piano sound.
now PA50.(the difference between 50 and 60/80 is unlike 60/80(where keys are like previous models- IS 40,50 series),PA 50 now has different key feel.it's still no AFT sensitive(like psr 1500 or 3K)but key feel is more predictable(good for attack)than PA60/80 where keys have (1/4 to 1/3) dead area before it starts to respond velocity.

Piano is not bad at all.very playable in live or recording.the area (A1 to C3) can be a little bit nasal but the lower and higher parts sounds good.overall PA50 does sound like a good sampler with great samples (and well balanced responce)and PSR 1500 sounds like a pumped up home keyboard (with only few good sounds)which is a fact.

almost other sounds in PA is sweet,live,cool voices in yam 's terms.yes PSR simply can't beat overall sound quality of PA.

but on the other hand newer technology and ease of use make PSR 1500(and 3k)shine.
interaction between arranger and mid file playback,SM card and USB to device,and great screen(where in PA most of the screen is wasted with dumb and confusing design),4 realistic fills(instead of 2 mostly erratic fills of PA), multi pads which can do what they are suppose to do,and ofcourse mega 3 rd party style support of yam.

so I'm repeating these. http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/009086.html http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/009096.html http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/009195.html


piano wise they both are not great.1500 is like outdated(was good in early 90's) old home KB piano which is playable.PA 50 is like some "not that great" patch(but usable) in a new pro sampler.so they are in the same level.good points for PA here is you have more usuable ac piano patches(L/R piano/piano and strings, etc).
mind you- other sounds(including vintage EPs in PA 50 will blow 1500,3k and tyros out of water).

but styles and versatility wise psr is also way ahead than PA.

Hi,

I tend to agree with most what Jamman says here about the Korg PA-50. After having owned a PA-80 for two years, having a very short fling with the PSR3000 I returned to Korg and as I wanted to economize (if not I would surely have got the PA1X) I settled for the PA-50. Which is as good a keyboard as Jamman says and quite incredible for the price tag. However I disagree with the remark about styles being more versatile on the PSR, basically because of all the things that you can do with the drum and percussion tracks. And let's not underestimate how important the drum track is in deciding on the versatality of the complete style. with the PA-50 you can AT THE TOUCH OF A BUTTON silence, alter, each and every drumpart within the drumpattern e.g. in a rock style you mute the BASS drum, you bring down the volume of the SNARE drum ,etc.etc. as well as being able to pan,and add reverb etc. individually to all these parts. Furthermore and even without having to go into this submenu there are SEVEN sub variations to each style variation of the Drum and percussion tracks. Oddly enough I have never heard people about this terrific phenomenon which to the best of my knowledge and in such an extensive form can only be done on the Solton/Ketron keyboards.
An important factor to weigh in.
Finally, though as everyone says you have to simply play the thing and make up your own minds, there's no comparing a PSR1500 to a Korg PA-50. To me personally not even to the PSR-3000 which admittedly is a very good machine. (be it twice as expensive as the Korg PA-50 which I would choose anyway...

I'm a major Korg user too(since the M1 days).
but let's not under estimate yam's capability in the real world arranger giging.

styles(preset) more versatile in PSR means(IMHO)-
1.4 realistic fills (instead of more noisy and non conventional 2 fills)PA 's styles programmers care more to impress to marketing dept than to actual giggers
2.break button which does more than simple crash
3.simpler and more open backing tracks in PSR(in PA esply guitar tracks are easily recognizable after a 10 sec pass)(worse some bass track-remember billy jean bass lick-how often can you use that preset style )(another "Macarena" in latin sec-another wasted useless style)those are just examples -PA has similar nearly useless styles in every catagoty

flamaco/latin stuff is much usable in 1500/3k as preset styles(latin disco/dance)combined with it's 4 fills and pads
4.some styles are direcly taken from hit songs which are obvious(bad move)so it's hard to use in other areas(eg.remember -latin rock-direcly taken from Santana's "Smooth"-both percuss and brass,piano).
4.smoother chord recognization(esp in fast tempos) without hiccups(yes you have to compare them side by side-even 300$ yam perform better in this dept),rootless chord recognization(mr.scott's fav)
5.drums sounds are natural and more live(than psr)but lets not forget adding realtime pads make the drum and instrument style tracks more realtime feel than relatively useless China gong ,triangle,oh yeahs to sfx like train and car engine)(yes I know you can assign it to style up down/efx mute) but compared to PSR it's a bad design(I hope they can change it with new OS-like pa1x).

ofcourse you can write your own styles(still 2 fills only)and micro edit the presets(still basic lines will be more or less same) but out of the box(in style comparing)PSR IMHO is much better and more fresh(don't forget 3rd party support and they now even have all PA80 styles for PSR/tyros)(I'm sure they don't sound as good as PA).


PA is designed for workstation users not arranger user(like yam)
remember when I3 came out in 93' it broke down the barrier b/t pro and home KB market due to it's sounds(same board like X3).yet arranger gigers were still using E 86(more or less a sound canvas with few jv sounds ) also -for direct disk play that I-3 didnt have-it has to load it).
unfortunately Korg did'nt improve their OS and lay out.only the sounds get better but 2 fills,usless pads(which is new) are the same.PA1x has more yam OS to it yet still it can't really escape from same old 1993 - i3 format.

and to the original question-
for 1000$ to me(my personal pref) PA-50 is a better choice(best bang for the buck- sound /price ratio).You can always use as a synth in a live band situation(for prog/perfrmance mode).



[This message has been edited by jamman (edited 11-11-2004).]

I used to have some PSR Yamaha series, then I bought a PA 80, and hold a PA 60 for three years. A friend of mine bought a PSR 1500, I tried at his place I did'nt like its quality of sound. Then I was about to buy a TR series Korg, but after playing it at the Store I was really dissapointed in going on with the idea of buying it.
Then I make a good decision (since my point of view) I bought a PA 50, and I find it very good. It has many improvements (in comparison with PA 60/80 and the same good sound effects. I love the Folk Sax, the flute, the nylon guitar, the sweet harmonic, the piano,etc.
In my city, Trujillo-Peru when I play on receptions and weddings people and musicians are atonished about hearing to my new keyboard.
So, now I have a good synth by paying less.

I have both the 3K & PA50. As already stated the PA50 is remarkable value.
I use the 4 Pads to switch the style parts ON \ OFF.