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#129918 - 01/23/05 10:30 PM Re: Korgs New Keyboard! Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!
KN_Fan Offline
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Registered: 10/01/02
Posts: 492
I played along the demo (Love Embraces All) with my Triton Studio, the piano sounds the same. I have the extra bonus sounds downloaded from Korg's site and tweaked the effects a bit. Sounds just like OASYS' piano.

I'm serious....IF they spent more efforts in creating a Triton Studio, BUT user friendly, understandable manual that itself is already a really powerful beast. Triton Studio is only at it's 2.1 operating system now, say if they can come up with operating system 3.0 (or something) that say can simplify pattern making, replace the RRPR with something more logical and useful, etc..basically making the keyboard easier (and more enjoyable) to play with, trust me, many people won't need OASYS. Heck, they don't need OASYS now. Just my opinion.

How many of you guys (who have EXTENSIVE years of playing music) were turned off by how complicated the keyboard was?? Korg I think could've made a better sale with Studio than they are doing now.

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#129919 - 01/24/05 03:03 AM Re: Korgs New Keyboard! Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!
to the genesys Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
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Hardware keyboard manufacturers are just too late with coming out with keyboards like the OASYS.
Most people who would want a keyboard like that would have a studio already with a computer, some softsynth, and hard ware equipment.

We are already hearing people say that 1. for that price, they can get a comparable or better set-up using separate components and 2. They would prefer to have things separate.

The only thing that people would want the OASY for is its sounds although they could get comparable sounds using softsynths.

For that price, perhaps the only people who would get it are persons who want the show that they have the prestige to get it or some one who does not have a studio already.

Hardware keyboard manufacturers have allowed computers and software programs to do what conventional keyboards should have been doing years ago. And now it is just too late.

But having said that, I still would not mine checking keyboards like that out. May be there is something in keyboards like that that we are not seeing as yet.

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#129920 - 01/24/05 06:06 AM Re: Korgs New Keyboard! Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!
DanO1 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/01
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Hello friends,

Here's a few observations.
When I worked at GC, we were selling the Korg Oasys computer sound card at a blow out price of $399.00. Maybe alot of this keyboard is based off this hardware.
I have talked with a couple of product specialist from Korg and they know my understanding of arranger keyboards.
They have told me that the sound technology of the PA series is being used in the next line up of keyboards.They feel the sounds are better on the PA series vs. the Extreme or Studio,something about 5 oscillators vs the current 2 on the Tritons.

Dan O


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#129921 - 01/26/05 10:11 AM Re: Korgs New Keyboard! Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!
spalding Offline
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Registered: 09/29/04
Posts: 582
Loc: Birmingham
My brother is a white hot musician and semi pro producer . he said the following about the Korg board

"Hmm. To me the demo "Love Embraces All" sounds promising anyway, but the
bit that freaked me out (as well as the price), was when I read an (unofficial) review of it from a bystander. He said that there were STILL some acoustic sounds that werent replicated well (!). And to think that this is coming from an 8000+ keyboard?!

Another thing was its sampling memory - in order to maximise it, you have to sacrifice any expansion boards you may have in the nit . (Yes, you've heard
it - EXPANSION BOARDS!). Two issues are at work here - memory can be
"expanded" to 512MB (The Fantom could do this without removing the boards,
and for an instrument at this price you would expect it to be expanded to a
higher capacity), and the fact that expansion boards ARE ALREADY MADE for
such an expensive instrument.

I personally think Korg have shot themselves in the foot by manufacturing
this, and aiming it at a specific market. In saying that though, I didn't
know such a market exists - Most producers would spend that amount of money
on fitting a whole studio (with their choice of selected gear), let alone
spend it on just a keyboard.

This is significant as even though the OASYS was an expensive kit to
produce, the technology itself was based on the soundcard of the same name
that they made earlier (which was also expensive to produce). That was
originally retailing for 2000, but got phased out because when Windows XP
came out, Korg didn't write any drivers for it making it incompatible with
newer computers.

Sounds like the beginning of the end for Korg if this thing becomes a sales
flop."

It looks like Korg messed up and needed a platform to extend the life of the OASYS software hence the new keyboard which is essentially an amalgamation of old technology within an "open system"

What do you think ?

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#129922 - 01/27/05 03:32 AM Re: Korgs New Keyboard! Holy CRAP!!!!!!!!
Alone&Forsaken Offline
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Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 120
"Sounds like the beginning of the end for Korg if this thing becomes a sales
flop."

Yeah sure does...hahahaha if your insane. Do you honestly think Korg bankrolled their entire company on ONE keyboard? Do you somehow feel the dozens of successful product lines they launched even invented don't count?

Worse thing that could happen...would be a reduced price within six months, and a host of spin off products at the next namm.


"bit that freaked me out (as well as the price), was when I read an (unofficial) review of it from a bystander. He said that there were STILL some acoustic sounds that werent replicated well (!). And to think that this is coming from an 8000+ keyboard?!"

Yeah and Nigel stated the other day...

It's hard to really judge audio critically because of all the background noise from nearby booths at NAMM.

In relation to the rompler features of the Alesis Fusion.

Plus natural acoustic sounds is the dragon all keyboards are after, even with an inflated priced keyboard...expecting a complete reproduction is unrealistic.

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