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#130428 - 12/09/99 11:16 PM
Re: Playing Midifiles on GEM WK8 & Solton X1
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Registered: 11/17/99
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Did you have the latest OS installed???? I saw and heard this keyboard working and it sounded way better as my "old" G 800 with midiplayback! The guy using it had over 8000 songs stored on his harddisk by the way. I loved the display of the WK 8 ( I have allways had probs with the G 800 with this) Now I will very often use the keyboard as my band to jam a long with on my guitar, so for me the playback capacities are pretty important! Further a good PC interface is needed! The Karaoke system is very handy! The built in voiceharmoniser as well. Loading wav forms as well.
So is the solton worth the extra money! we are talking about +HD+Harmonizer+Karaoke maybe + Poundsterling 1000,-- more! fred
(Oh by the way after 30 posts you are a member) fred
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#130429 - 12/10/99 02:37 AM
Re: Playing Midifiles on GEM WK8 & Solton X1
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Registered: 11/26/99
Posts: 241
Loc: Austin, Texas, U.S.A.
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Freddynl,
How much is a GEM WK8? A loaded Solton X1-HD is about US$2,900+, with harmonizer about $175 - I actually got a quote for X1-HD for about $2,700 but I did not buy from that person, I bought it from George Kaye because he shows excellent attitude and knowledge in supporting his products. X1 plays MIDI files with lyrics well, even *.kar files - you do not have to pay extra for karaoke functionality - its lyrics display is much better than Yamaha PSR-7X0, Roland G1000, Korg I-30 ... etc., also displays guitar chords, with much more lines of lyrics displayed so you will not have a problem of having to wait for the lyrics to show up. DannyUK was very skeptical about X1 and he asked a lot of questions in the old arranger keyboard forum before he finally decided to purchase Solton X1. You are exactly repeating his steps - he also owns a GEM WK8 and he compared WK8 and X1 very thoroughly and made his choice. The new trend in the market seems to be the competition between the soon-to-be-released Yamaha PSR-9000 and the current king Solton X1.
Paul
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#130430 - 12/10/99 02:38 AM
Re: Playing Midifiles on GEM WK8 & Solton X1
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
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Danny, I'll through another one out to you! At my store I have tried certain midifiles in a PSR 8000, then the PSR 740, then the X1, then the WK8, and finally the EM2000, and they all play differently. My only explanation has come from AJ many months ago. If I had a Solton MS 60 and tried playing some of my midifiles from that machine, some of the drums do not line up because Solton was using user drum sets. I think that what you are experiencing is that the producer of the SMF you are playing was really not following the GM specifications. When I play a tune 1000 song in all these keyboards they play fine, but when I try certain SMF's I've downloaded from the net, this is when I experience problems. This is only a thought, I don't know if I'm right. George Kaye
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#130432 - 12/10/99 11:03 AM
Re: Playing Midifiles on GEM WK8 & Solton X1
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Registered: 02/17/00
Posts: 532
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I think this discussion is beginning to point at the wrong culprit. SMF files on the net are made in many different ways. Some are made in real time on a synth, some are made in step time on a synth, some in step time on a computer, and all sorts of hybrids of these approaches. I have downloaded and played thousands of these from websites and from absm. Almost all of these play well whether I use my computer or by PSR-8000 to play them. In addition, so few absm members report problems with the files that they must be conforming to GM standards. Of course, some variation in sound must be expected. But if one a certain keyboard cannot play many Internet GM files it is probably due to a non-standard GM implementation. Then, why do the Tune 1000 files work on these synths. Because, as they have a financial interest in customer satisfaction, they listen to complaints by those people with synths that cannot handle the files. They make their files so that they do not run into problems in nonstandard, or at least unusual, GM implementations.
So, I would point my finger at General Music, absolve the Internet folks, and give credit to Tune1000 for accommodating General Music on General Midi.
But-this is just a FWIW opinion,
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#130433 - 12/10/99 11:21 AM
Re: Playing Midifiles on GEM WK8 & Solton X1
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Danny, Some sequences use system exclusive messages. The messages are only readable by the same manufactured models. In the early sequencing world, most sequences originated on the Roland Sound Canvas[GS]. We saved the settings as set-ups ,they are actualy system exclusive information, and only read by a GS instrument,[Roland E , EM and G series and SC line]. Many of the net material , I, m Sure are using system exclusive messages from each individual manufacture,. You can add your own program change and levels etc. ,the changes you write will not be affected by the exclusive messages that do not pertain to your instrument[you do not have to delete the system info]......Fran
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