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#130772 - 11/13/02 08:19 PM Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
justforfun000 Offline
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Why does this idiot machine do things you don't tell it to?

I go into midi files on my hard drive to adjust them while it's playing, therefore using the master track, and the damn thing indiscrimnately changes volumes on me. Why?

One example. I go into track 1 to change a Fingered bass to a deep bass. NOTHING ELSE. The volume is at 45. I start the song to listen after it finshes saving and guess what? The volume is now 63. Too damn loud. So I try to drop the volume on the master track and save again. What does it do? Puts it right back up to 63 again. Completely ignoring me.

On another song, I wasn't even touching volumes, but changing instruments again. About 7 instruments dropped in volume. Some went down as far as about 16 when it was originally 55. What in God's name could be the reason for this? I would be about 5 times more ahead by now on my midi files being converted if thus stupid machine didn't do things like this.

does anyone have any idea why? It doesn't seem to do it to every sequence, just some.

I'd appreciate some help before I chuck this thing out the window. I don't need this aggravation.

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#130773 - 11/13/02 08:21 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
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Oh and by the way, in that second example, the instruments that were lowering in volume were not necessarily ones I was adjusting. Some I hadn't touched at all.

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#130774 - 11/13/02 08:36 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
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You have to use a program like Cakewalk or Power tracks to EVENT EDIT your SMF songs on your p/c program. There are control VOL changes inserted thruout the songs your talking about. When the song plays it stays at one vol but when it reads another control message it changes vol. Remove all the vol change events or change them to the same vol you want, then save the song and it wont happen anymore. The SD-1 is an excellent KB and has nothing to do with your problem.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-13-2002).]

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#130775 - 11/13/02 08:53 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
You have to use a program like Cakewalk or Power tracks to EVENT EDIT your SMF songs on your p/c program. There are control VOL changes inserted thruout the songs your talking about. When the song plays it stays at one vol but when it reads another control message it changes vol. Remove all the vol change events, then save the song and it wont happen anymore. The SD-1 is an excellent KB and has nothing to do with your problem.

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-13-2002).]



Ya know Kendall , Donny is right .

I am sorry I did not return your call my arranger friend . I did get busy late this afternoon .

Computer software is more powerful than any thing the SD1 can do . I am sorry for your frustrations .

Have you ever transfered the song into the internal sequencer ? VS... the editing process your having frustrations with ?

dano
Ps...software = $30.00 to $80.00 !
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#130776 - 11/13/02 08:56 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
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I can forward this post to Italy if you wish . But software is the answer .

Down load samples and try them out !

dano

[This message has been edited by DanO1 (edited 11-13-2002).]
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#130777 - 11/13/02 09:43 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
justforfun000 Offline
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Thanks for trying to answer you guys, but I'm afraid you're wrong.

I know these sequences, and they DO NOT have volume changes in them. Some of them I have created myself.

In certain midi files I have, the volume is used as a swell/fade effect, but in these two particular examples there IS NOT any volume changes. They have only one C00 - 7 at the very beginning. I even erased all volume commands in the tracks and put one at the beginning in one of the songs and it made no difference. So it IS the Solton that is doing this.

I remember throwing this vague question out before when I was still tinkering around with the board. I seem to remember some people who posted back saying they have also experienced a similar problem.

In any event, there is no way that it is volume commands on the tracks. Trust me. i have been sequencing songs for over ten years, and I know every control change and it's effects on the instruments. So I would appreciate it if you would forward this on to Solton Dan01. It does seem to be a solton glitch. Just some sequences though. i can't understand it??

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#130778 - 11/13/02 09:57 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
Dnj Offline
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Does the song play on other KB's or on your P/c OK?

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#130779 - 11/13/02 09:59 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
justforfun000 Offline
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And just for the record I LOVE the keyboard.

I just have a love/hate relationship with it. Especially when I have been laboriously converting my midi files over to this thing for the last month and a half. I never dreamed it would be so time-consuming. Yesterday and today I have finally got to the point where the basic incompatabilities were fixed prior to loading all the songs into the hard drive. Now that I have started that, practically everything else is working fine EXCEPT for this idiot volume thing. It's gotten that I have been leaving some songs with an instrument I have not been as happy with just so I don't have to put any commands on the master track. Because then the volumes get skewed and I'm worse off than what I was. *sigh*.

There has to be an answer to this. It really doesn't make sense. If I'm not putting and control changes to the volume, and it only has ONE command set at the beginning, then how in blue blazes can it possibly be changing them???? That's why I'm so frustrated. It doesn't make sense.

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#130780 - 11/13/02 10:00 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
justforfun000 Offline
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To answer DNJ, yes. No problems whatsoever as to this volume thing.

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#130781 - 11/13/02 10:02 PM Re: Can anyone tell me what the @$#% is going on with the PSYCHO SD1???
justforfun000 Offline
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Registered: 06/17/02
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But of course you have to realize the problem happens ONLY when I save commands to the master track on the Solton, so it starts from there.

why it affects the volumes is weird. Stranger yet, is sometimes the volumes go up and sometimes they go down. And these are on tracks I am not even touching in some cases.

It really is strange.

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