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#134037 - 08/12/03 10:04 PM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Bluezplayer Offline
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
Uncle Dave,

I played the 2100 and I thought maybe it had a slightly stiffer key feel than my 2000 does, but I also considered the possibility that the key feel on my 2k gets looser as it ages and gets played.

Either way, if there is a difference, it certainly isn't significant enough that I like it much better. It's even harder for me to get into the 2k key feel when I play it right after I've played my Motif or PA80.. For me, the key feel of the 2k is the absolute worst thing about the board. When I play it as a solo instrument ( which I do sometimes ), I control it with the Motif or the PA880 keys. Sometimes I just use it along with the PA80, and via midi I mix the sounds of the two boards to get a fatter or modified sound..

AJ
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#134038 - 08/13/03 05:56 AM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Pilot Offline
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Registered: 11/14/02
Posts: 328
Loc: Ontario,Canada
Hi Star

Thanks for the info but I'm not in the market for a new keyboard right now. Have to get a new roof first. That's big bucks

Bryan

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#134039 - 08/13/03 07:46 AM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Starkeeper Offline
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Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 1704
Loc: Toronto
Bryan,
Ditto for me as well. Now if only my wife would start working.
Star
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#134040 - 08/13/03 03:46 PM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Pilot Offline
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Registered: 11/14/02
Posts: 328
Loc: Ontario,Canada
Well, you know what they say. All a man needs is a car and a wife that both work.

Bryan

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#134041 - 08/15/03 08:40 PM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Goodbye PSR2100!!!Dave was right!!I emailed my reasons to Gary and Donny..I don't want to type anymore, maybe Donny or Gary can cut and paste my comments..Frank , see you had nothing to worry about...I am going to look again at the Roland VR760..{I need a toy},,
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#134042 - 08/15/03 09:33 PM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Idatrod Offline
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Registered: 07/23/02
Posts: 562
Loc: Oceanside, CA USA
Fran, I think you'll love the VR-760 especially if you like to play Organ. The Organs on the VR-760 are superb imo. The Piano patch's are pretty good too. As are the Electric Pianos. The VR-760 has 128 note Polyphony and it even has a basic rhythm accompaniment feature although it is not an Arranger. Plus it has 76 Keys. The Drawbar Sliders and all those other buttons and knobs make it a real hands on Keyboard.

PS: Sorry to hear the PSR 2100 didn't do it for you. But there are plenty of other "toys", (no pun intended) out there to choose from.

Best regards,
Mike

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#134043 - 08/15/03 09:57 PM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Uncle Dave Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 12800
Loc: Penn Yan, NY
OK - Here's Fran's comments on the 2100:

**I decided to sell the 2100[to Dave] for a couple of reasons. It isn't quite fast enough for me, while playing sequences.[ Too many extra button pushes, even with the direct access button, reading lyrics and changing parts ect]..I think the sounds with sequence playback are just OK, and not as stellar as my G1000..The 2100 lacks the realtime control I am use to, dedicated buttons that are not menu driven[this is the problem with the VA-76], I also use after touch, and expression pedal to bring in color sounds[not possible with the 2100]..As I mentioned , I prefer no modulation built into the sound ,I want to control this..There are some very good sounds on the 2100, but across the board, to my one and one half ears, the G1000 is much better.

I liked the harmonizer and I thought that was the strenth of the instrument..With your(Gary) EQ settings you set up for me, the keyboard sounding good with the internal speakers, but with a PA you could hear distortion especially with the vocals..when I used the flat EQ it was better thru the PA[I used a 12 inch PA system]..And the most important two negatives to me..the stinking handclaps instead of a brush snare on many excellent sequences I use...And the poor construction quality..I think Yamaha tried to put a lot of goodies into a modest priced keyboard at the expense of cheap construction.

The feel I could never get use to and the buttons do not seem sturdy...Gary these are my opinions and I know there are some work arounds, but it would not be worth the time spent to physically play the 2100 for me...Fran
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#134044 - 08/16/03 06:35 AM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Frank L. Rosenthal Offline
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Registered: 03/18/00
Posts: 1008
UD & DNJ I am surprised that you cannot get Fran separated from his G1000. By now he most have earned a vast rate of return from it which he could share with his friends and buy a new keyboard. I bet if you got him a Yamaha 9000 Pro and painted Roland on it - he would take it!!!

Fran, you know you can always get around those terrible hand claps and dogs howling by translating to the appropriate drum instruments (GNMidi). Alternatively, you could use a laptop with the sYnerGiGS soundfont (something like $25) for Yamaha midis and the Edirol HQ Sound Canvas (bigger $s) for proper midis.

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#134045 - 08/16/03 08:07 AM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Frank are you saying , I can remap the drums collectively using GNMIDI to play Yamaha[with the right drum sounds]keyboards? If we did the remap would it change the way the edited sequences play on good instruments[Roland], or would I need to save as a seperate Yahmaha folder?
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#134046 - 08/16/03 11:39 AM Re: Am I imagining ...........
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Frank,


Now we are using on our laptops a Roland SC88 sound card to play SMF songs. Its ok but some things just dont sound right, hence the search for a new sound card such as the Hyper Canvas.
But you do need a fast processor 850 or better. What do you recomend besides this for great sounding Midi files?

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