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#145377 - 08/22/07 06:18 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Originally posted by travlin'easy:
This entire topic is utterly ridiculous. What the hell am I doing here? I'm going to mix up a good margarita, prop my feet up, hope for good weather and go sailing.

Cheers,Gary



Now that's a man who is making sense!!!!...great post Gary!!!!



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#145378 - 08/22/07 06:20 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
Dnj Offline
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Cant we just get along?

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 08-22-2007).]

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#145379 - 08/22/07 06:26 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by Scottyee:
I'm begining to think a lot of people prefer to argue about keyboard brand/model preferences (my kb's better than yours), etc, because they find it easier than actually dedicating the work & time required to improve their kb chops & arranger playing skills. If you own a relatively current keyboard now, simply appreciate what you got and share actual arranger 'music making' tips which benefit all arranger players. You'll be amazed how much keyboard improvement you'll notice if the amount of time spent improving one's keyboard skills replaces the time spent posting on this forum promoting the mine's better than yours attitudes. I think it far more productive to share (tips/tricks) on improving arranger keyboard playing technique and also hearing more actual 'arranger keyboard' mode music performed here.

That said, I definitely appreciate having a light compact keyboard to afford convenient gig transport.

- Scott

[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 08-22-2007).]


Scott asking to share music, demos, ro anything that pertains to listening to any body's work ....is a "RED" area and leads to massive arguments....I should know

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#145380 - 08/22/07 06:37 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by Diki:
ve a damn about anything but 'entertainment'. Better get your chicken hat warmed up!



Don't be fooled my friends ....
That Chicken hat has made mucho bucks $$$$$$$ thru the years!!!
http://www.chickenhats.com/Chickenhats.htm

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#145381 - 08/22/07 07:04 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Dnj:

Don't be fooled my friends ....
That Chicken hat has made mucho bucks $$$$$$$ thru the years!!!



Donny, I guess it could be said that you are poultry in motion.

Ian
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#145382 - 08/22/07 07:06 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
Dnj Offline
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.......at the right gig it makes all the difference believe me!

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#145383 - 08/22/07 07:09 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
pianodano Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 122
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Can't say I miss my B3 and Leslies (or my Rhodes)...but some people love retro gear like some people like old cars...as the saying goes "they don't make 'em like they used to".

Then again, sometimes that's a good thing.

Ian



The point I was making was, it's the memories. Well over half of my life. I am glad I kept my stuff all these years. I am also glad it was built by people that cared enough about what they where building to tell the bean counters to take a hike.

Danny

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#145384 - 08/22/07 07:19 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by pianodano:
I am also glad it was built by people that cared enough about what they where building to tell the bean counters to take a hike.

Danny



No bean counters in 1956?

Get serious.

Laurens Hammond was that cheap he used to turn off the stove burner whilst flipping the bacon.

Memories are like the rear view mirror in a car...spend too much time looking in it and you lose sight of the road ahead.

Every time I think about lugging that big old B3 it makes me want to hug my S900.

Ian





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#145385 - 08/22/07 08:22 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
pianodano Offline
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Registered: 02/28/05
Posts: 122
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
No bean counters in 1956?

Get serious.

Laurens Hammond was that cheap he used to turn off the stove burner whilst flipping the bacon.


Ian





Is that so. How about that.

Danny

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#145386 - 08/22/07 09:51 PM Re: those who complain about keyboard weight
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 845
Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
when i was young i carried a bari sax, tenor sax, and bass clarinet on my person in heavy cases through airports, on subways, up stairs,etc. I paid my dues for that. 2 hernias..

a couple of operations and decades later I carry only an alto sax and an Eb sopranino (2/3 the size of a soprano). whenever i think i can get by with just the sopranino i leave the alto home. Funny, i sound a lot better
than i did back in the day, not because of equipment but
because the years have made me a better player.

better equipment is a marginal utility, and everyone has
to make their own cost/benefit analysis where better
equipment means better sound... because better sound
means Caruso or Satchmo sound better on a CD thru a killer stereo than they do on a spool on an old victrola. But Caruso/Armstrong arguably sound better on an old victrola than most of today's stars on a CD thru a killer stereo.

That is why most of don't purchase a $10, 000 stereo
system, or even a $5,000 one even if we can afford it,
unless we are filthy rich, because we consider it marginal utility. it's just not doing THAT much more for us than a decent $1500 system. When those of us that set a limit
on how much weight we are willing to lug around for
the additional sonar benefit (presuming there is one, which is another argument--some don't think so) we are
assessing the marginal utility, and acting accordingly.

Improving our musical and performance skills makes
us sound better on lesser equipment than having stagnant
skills on better equipment. this is a nice way of saying
that a great musician will sound better on a $500 psr
with any decent sound system loud enough for the gig,
than a mediocre musician will sound on a G70 or T2 with
the best sound system money can buy. Sure the great musician will sound even better on the upgrade..but it's
a marginal utility that has to be judged by him alone..
after all if you hear Caruso or Louis now on an old victrola they will still send chills up your spine. would you pay
$100 and travel 100 miles to hear their record thru a Bose? sure it will sound better..but......you get the idea.

Lee Trevino used to hustle good country club golfers who could afford the best equipment--he'd play them with
a coke bottle attached to a broomstick, and still beat them. I'm not in his comparative league.

I'm no Lee Trevino of the keyboard. i can't give a concert
on a $300 casio and a little keyboard amp and make it work. But i can kick some ass with my E60 and a decent keyboard amp. I'm not about to shlep around a G70
and a big sound system, just to sound marginally better while I'm kicking it..but i'm not knocking those who do.
au contraire, I admire those who do..just not those who
look down on others who don't..

those oldtimers who are complaining about whiners (gee-
sure sounds like that's a whine too, no?) you remind me
of the Billy Chrystal /Christopher Guest characters
on SNL back in the day.."hey, when we were young it was better..if you cut your finger, there was no antiseptic, it would get infected and they would have to amputate it..
and we liked it that way.."yeah, right...and we had no can
opener so we stuck in a knife and twisted it..and it might
pop out and take out your eye..but we liked it that way...

hey, remember before suitcases had wheels? did you like
it better that way? were the guys who put wheels on them
"whiners?"



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