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#146886 - 11/24/04 09:28 AM Re: the truth about Genesys
Anonymous Unregistered	Hello Dan, Quote: Originally posted by DAN.2000: The thing I don't understand, is that before the Genesys, GEM had sampler with more ram in the WK8, so why downgrade? The Genesys uses a different type of memory than our past instruments. I don�t really know why the memory can�t be upgraded, but I am sure there is a valid reason. Quote: About the copy protection of AKAI CD, I think you are wrong! If my PC computer, and my Kurz sampler can read them, The genesys can read them directly if it wants... Well I certainly could be wrong. I will admit that my statement was based on what I was told and not from personal experience. Sorry, I don�t normally rely on information unless I have tested it out but in this case, I slipped. I will try to get more (better) information about this and let you know. Quote: Is it the 3MB oriental kit that george kaye sent to me? Yes, I believe it is. Have you also checked at www.musicmediasoft.com ? I don�t know if they have anything else that might work for you, but it is worth taking a look. Finally, I do understand your desire to have an �All in One� instrument. That would be too good to be true. On the other hand, there is something to be said for diversity. Sometimes it is nice to have an assortment of sounds available from various manufacturers for the reasons I stated in my last post. Everybody hears and creates sounds differently. Best Regards, Dave [This message has been edited by WDMcM (edited 11-24-2004).] [This message has been edited by WDMcM (edited 11-24-2004).]
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#146887 - 11/24/04 02:45 PM Re: the truth about Genesys
PaulD Member Registered: 01/25/03 Posts: 258 Loc: Eugene, OR	Quote: Originally posted by DAN.2000: Hi Dave, First of all, I want to say to you, that you are really a positive man for Gem, and I want to thank you for all your fast and precise help. I couldn't agree more. He is also one heck of a musician. Quote: I want to say somthing about your last post. About sampling: I know that arranger keyboards are not really SAMPLERS, and it's just for help us a little. For example, I said to Ketron a big bug in the SD1 samplers, and the developper said to me that the chip can only read ROM sounds, and they had crack it to read RAM sounds too... just to help us a little to have another sounds... I know all that, and I bought the last Kurzweil K2661 with 128 Mb of RAM. I have also KONTAKT sample player on my PC with 1.5 Gb of RAM... But, what we really needs? If we take an pro arranger keyboard, it's because we want a keyboard that can make our work easy... My dream is to just to plug the keyboard, to the HP, without any mixer, without any external CD player, to plug mics with good effects (reverb, eq), and to have the better sound possible in just one plug! :::> The Keyboard who can make all (not the coffee ok ) Today samplers have not arranger part, and the genesys one is one of better. Take another keyboard with you, just to have 10/15 of your personal sounds, not make me happy. You know, If i was able to add an extra computer SDRAM (128Mb) to my arranger keyboard, to load fast samples, I will pay extra money for that keyboard... The thing I don't understand, is that before the Genesys, GEM had sampler with more ram in the WK8, so why downgrade? [/B] We did a market study, and "most" of the consumers that purchased the wk8 never upgraded their instrument, that people that wanted huge amounts of sample memory weren't very likely to purchase the genesys, and would opt. for a computer, or dedicated sampler. Quote: About the copy protection of AKAI CD, I think you are wrong! If my PC computer, and my Kurz sampler can read them, The genesys can read them directly if it wants... [/B] Actually it is the format in which the CD rom is in. If you change the format of the CD-ROM, the gensys will be able to read the CD-ROM. Regards, Paul Davis Generalmusic Corp. _________________________ Paul Davis Generalmusic Generalmusic.US
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#146888 - 11/24/04 03:36 PM Re: the truth about Genesys
spalding Member Registered: 09/29/04 Posts: 582 Loc: Birmingham	sound is very subjective but when your prospective customers and the customers that actually bought the keyboard are saying that the korg or the Tyros sound better you need to LISTEN. I was sold on the all in one package even with operating system glitches , even with the downgraded sampler i really was. but the sound... The Genesys is an awesome keyboard on paper and thats why i wanted to know more about it but put it next to the yamaha and the Korg and i challenge anyone that gets the opportunity, to tell me that the sound difference in terms of realism , dynamic response,is just a matter of opinion....i know what it is like to have one brand to sell and i repect any salesman who stands his corner in support of his companies products but if you are going to sell this keyboard in large amounts, you will need to pitch the price in line with the whole package . In particular the main reason for the purchase of a musical instrument, its sound. Noone will pay korg and tyros money for this board. And if they do i doubt if they wil again given the choice. Your customers are voting with their feet. I just did.
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#146889 - 11/25/04 05:35 PM Re: the truth about Genesys
spalding Member Registered: 09/29/04 Posts: 582 Loc: Birmingham	just wanted to publically apologise if my comments about the Genesys keyboard caused any offence.
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#146890 - 11/26/04 07:23 AM Re: the truth about Genesys
sk880user Member Registered: 01/26/01 Posts: 1255 Loc: United States	I wish I could have contributed to this discussion. But the truth is: 1) I have never played with Genesys 2) I have never played with Tyros or PSR3000 3) I have never played with PA1X But I can tell you a lot about Sk880
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#146891 - 11/26/04 12:40 PM Re: the truth about Genesys
Anonymous Unregistered	Quote: Originally posted by sk880user: .....But I can tell you a lot about Sk880 Hey there! Thanks, I needed that. Dave
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