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#148081 - 05/29/07 11:36 PM share market in arrangers business
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is there a website where we can see how well arranger manufacturers do? i am curious to see what is the business structure of these companies... which one is bigger, more accesible, more reliable, etc.
do you know somehting about such an analyse?
and how come so many manufacturers are italian or produce in italy? (roland, korg, ketron, gem, and maybe some other too)

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#148082 - 05/30/07 12:07 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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May be it is just one Keyboardfactory that uses different names, such as Korg, Roland Ketron or Yamaha. Why in Italy ?
Italy has allways been a country with a great musical history, you will find there many Accordeonfactories.

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#148083 - 05/30/07 12:19 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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Originally posted by Wis:
May be it is just one Keyboardfactory that uses different names, such as Korg, Roland Ketron or Yamaha.


what are you saying by this? i'm afraid i didn't get it right!
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#148084 - 05/30/07 02:27 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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Originally posted by Wis:
May be it is just one Keyboardfactory that uses different names, such as Korg, Roland Ketron or Yamaha. Why in Italy ?
Italy has allways been a country with a great musical history, you will find there many Accordeonfactories.


Bit absurd, Wis. Tell me that you're joking.
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#148085 - 05/30/07 03:21 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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so, is nothing wrong with my english...! :P
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#148086 - 05/30/07 03:44 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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Its not true of course....but it certainly is not onbsurd. In the Uk we have many many brands of soap powder for example that fill our stores shelves and naerly all of them come from just two soap powder manufacturers. By filling the shelves with numerous products all from the same company they fool the consumer into thinking that they have much greater choice than they actually have and any real competition has to compete with numerous different brands for a little bit of shelf space. Its quite clever really. But i am sure that yamaha korg and roland are diferent companies regardless as to how similar the Roland E80 looks to the Korg PA1X !

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#148087 - 05/30/07 03:44 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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double post. sorry

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#148088 - 05/30/07 02:20 PM Re: share market in arrangers business
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but where could we find some information about the real facts?
for instance, i am very curious how much bigger is yamaha then korg? or is it? and how much does roland sell compared to... whatever.
you know, something like that!
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#148089 - 05/31/07 03:20 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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I tried to find out a couple of years ago and it is a trade secret.
I wanted to know when they come out with a board like the tyros or G70 how many units do they expect to sell.
I don't need exact numbers but I'm wondering are they building them for 10 thousand people or ten million?
Or just the 10 or twenty guys here.

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#148090 - 06/11/07 09:27 AM Re: share market in arrangers business
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Musical instrument manufacturers are usually located in certain areas, since this lets them share technical knowledge, facilities and supplies. In Japan, there is also a shared component purchase office.

The area where most arrangers are built, in Italy, has a long tradition in accordion manufacturing, and this led to developing organ factories, then synth and arranger companies (not to speak of audio devices and accessories).

Primary parts are usually produced in shared facilities, making plastic and electronic components. Design, final assembly and quality insurance is absolutely separate for each company. This process lets each brand have its own personality, while reducing costs for common facilities.

Pieces produced vary for each company and model, but they are in the middle of the two orders you used as the boundaries.

Paolo


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