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#155422 - 06/25/05 07:10 PM G70 MP3s
JimP Offline
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Registered: 05/19/05
Posts: 51
Loc: Richfield, Ohio USA
I recorded a few songs with my G70 and I thought it would be good to share them since most members have not had a chance to hear the G70. The file named Leon Sash is a jazz tune written by Leon Sash (a jazz accordion player). I used the classic big band style with the vk8 organ on the right hand. On the God Father Waltz I used the folk valzer 1 style. I used cakewalk home studio with an M-audio firewire 410 interface. This was my first attempt at recording. Also, I am not a professional musician.
http://cpajimp.tripod.com/leon_sash.mp3 http://cpajimp.tripod.com/godfather_waltz.mp3

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#155423 - 06/25/05 07:18 PM Re: G70 MP3s
JimP Offline
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Registered: 05/19/05
Posts: 51
Loc: Richfield, Ohio USA
When I click on the links in my original post, tripod does not let me open or download the files. When I enter the link directly in my browser, it works fine.
Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong?

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#155424 - 06/25/05 08:09 PM Re: G70 MP3s
msutliff Offline
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Registered: 03/08/01
Posts: 640
Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Hey Jim,

Here's a cut&paste from Tripod's help files:

What is remote loading?

Remote loading is using your Tripod account for the purpose of storing files (images, etc.) for use on another site, or for backup purposes. For free users, Remote Loading is unavailable. Free Tripod accounts used for Remote Loading violate our terms of service. If you would like to upgrade to a Tripod Paid Package.

So what's happening is, the Synthzone webpage sends the Tripod website "referer" information (it was the Synthzone that "referred" you to Tripod). Tripod doesn't like that. When you plug the URL into a browser straight up (not from a link on another web page), that's okay.

By the way, I thought the clips sounded very good. Very nice sounds.

-mike

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#155425 - 06/25/05 08:25 PM Re: G70 MP3s
JimP Offline
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Registered: 05/19/05
Posts: 51
Loc: Richfield, Ohio USA
Mike,
Thanks for the info. I upgraded the tripod account and the links work.
Jim

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#155426 - 06/25/05 11:19 PM Re: G70 MP3s
Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
Jim,
thank you for posting these songs; MP3s made with the G 70 are so rare that every opportunity to hear them is precious.
Did you upgrade the OS to 1.10?
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#155427 - 06/26/05 01:23 AM Re: G70 MP3s
Scottyee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
Quote:
Originally posted by JimP:
This was my first attempt at recording. Also, I am not a professional musician.


JimP: Good job, especially for a first attempt at recording. Though you may not be a pro musician (yet), you're well on the road to becoming one. Keep up the good work.

I enjoyed your organ blues melody riff & solo on demo1, but felt it was sabatoged by the (robotic) sounding repetious G70 style. I found the 'exact same' repetitous snare fill annoying. The waltz style used on your Grandfather Waltz tune also sounded (at least to me) robotically quantized(omph pa pa) too. I feel these specific G70 auto accomp styles don't breathe musically. I only hope the other G70 styles fare better. On the other hand, your melody instrument patches: 'accordian' & 'organ' sound pretty decent, though not exceptional (seem to lack spark & sizzle). JimP, looking forward to hearing more music from you as you explore and master your G70's capabilities. Keep up the good work.


Scott
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#155428 - 06/26/05 03:35 AM Re: G70 MP3s
Roel Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1232
Jim,
Thanks for your recordings, probably the best sounding ones (created by users) I heard so far.
It seems you did some DSP tweaking to eliminate the 'distance miking/bathtub' feel.

I do like your playing but agree with Scott about the styles..... in fact it was the main reason for returning my G70 to the store... 7 months ago

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#155429 - 06/26/05 12:24 PM Re: G70 MP3s
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Jim,
Nice job.....on one of my favorite Mazurkas....
brought me back to the wedding scene in GF1.

thanx for sharing!!

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#155430 - 06/27/05 11:32 AM Re: G70 MP3s
TresorTX Offline
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Registered: 09/20/04
Posts: 95
Loc: Dallas, Boston, Orlando
Jim P. Very nice work... Thank you for sharing. I look forward to hearing more of your work. The G70 sounds good to me.

To those harsh critics of the G70 I would enjoy hearing if/why you think these recordings sound bad. I find the styles on G70 to be clean, dynamic and robust yet maintaining clear and distinct style voices.


Thanks again Jim.
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#155431 - 06/27/05 02:13 PM Re: G70 MP3s
Roel Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1232
TresorTX,
As I wrote before : These recordings done by JimP sound absolutely fantastic.

It must be a matter of taste and what kind of styles you are used to use, but after I owned Technics KN's, Solton X1 and Ketron SD1 (all having fantastic styles/voices) the G shows only a little 'musical quality/feel' IMHO

Now I own the Tyros since a couple of months and in my view the musical feel and style quality is much higher.....

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#155432 - 06/27/05 05:22 PM Re: G70 MP3s
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Jim,

Excellent job, sounded a lot like the orriginal sound track from Godfather. As for the G-70's styles, I cannot, and would not, make a judgement based on just a few songs. Overall, the MP3s sound crisp and clean, and your timing is excellent.

Thanks,

Gary
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#155433 - 06/27/05 08:17 PM Re: G70 MP3s
JimP Offline
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Registered: 05/19/05
Posts: 51
Loc: Richfield, Ohio USA
To Scott, Roel, DNJ, TresorTX and Gary, thanks for the comments.

My G-70 has OS version 1.10 installed. Most sounds and styles have
too much reverb. To adjust the reverb only takes a few seconds not a lot of tweaking.
Once I call up a style, I hit the effects button. The effects screen has controls for the keyboard effects, style/song effects, mastering tools. I usually adjust the reverb on the keyboard parts and style to 50% of the original value. I then save everything to a user program location. I only have to adjust the effects one time. Hopefully, Roland will adjust the reverb down in a future upgrade.

Once I have adjusted the effects and saved everything to user programs, the sounds are very good. I like the piano and the VK organs better than the Tyros pianos and organs. For most of the other sounds I think I like the Tyros sounds a little better. I never liked Korg’s acoustic sounds as much as Yamaha or Roland I am thinking of adding a motif es rack or a soft synth to compliment the G-70 sounds.

Two songs are not enough to form an opinion about the styles. I will try to record and post a few more songs with other styles.

Scott, my big frustration with all arrangers is the longer I play them, the styles sound more and more repetitive. I think effective arranger musicians are the ones that add feeling to the song with their vocals or their playing (phrasing, improvising, etc).

Jim

[This message has been edited by JimP (edited 06-27-2005).]

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#155434 - 06/27/05 09:53 PM Re: G70 MP3s
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi Jim

Very good start at recording I would say. I like the sound of the jazz organ. I also rather liked the big band horn section in the backround. I played trumpet in big bands and I think that those horn lines are something that a live section would play on a song with this kind of feel. Those were some interesting blues licks. I'll bet Andrew Gordon would like them! (Am I right?)

The waltz I think was a good European style waltz. It sounded like a combination of a French and German waltz. I'm from Wisconsin where all the Germans settled, so I could relate to what I was hearing. I liked the sound of the accordian/musette. I also thought you had nice phrasing.

Keep up the good work. Great start!

Best
Scott Langholff
http://www.ScottLMusic.com

[This message has been edited by Scott Langholff (edited 06-27-2005).]

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