I am planning on buying a USB controller to work with a Dell XP computer running Sonar. What would you recommend?

I need 49 keys with MIDI IN/OUT and a USB port.

I am looking at these 3 models:

1. Edirol PCR-M50
http://tinyurl.com/dk2ay

2. M-Audio MK-449C
http://tinyurl.com/bzjl9

3. Novation ReMOTE 49
http://tinyurl.com/9zv5f

The Novation ReMOTE comes with channel aftertouch and an extra X/Y touchpad.

All have templates that map the buttons, sliders, knobs, wheels and pedals to Sonar and all other popular Sequencers and Soft Synths.

I am looking for an easy way to edit the gigantic collection of MIDI files and Yamaha Styles I got on-line.

Tapas

Hi,

For what it's worth, I have the 61 note version of the M-Audio MK, and the key action feels very cheap and toy-like. In retrospect, I wish I'd saved a few more pennies to get a controller with a firmer, synth style semi-weighted design. (I've read that both of the other boards you mention have superior keybeds, but haven't tried them.)

But if you just need a midi editing tool, the 449C will certainly do the job. Plus, it has dedicated pitch and mod wheels instead of a joystick...

Michael

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Hi Michael,

Thanks for you word of advise and personal experience on the M-Audio MK-461C 61 Key USB/MIDI controller.

Key action is a very important issue. If they feel toy-like, I am staying away from the M-Audio MK series.

You are correct, the Edirol PCR-M30 is the newer version of the PCR-30 with better key action. Edirol has posted dozens of templates on its download site. There is even one for the Garritan Personal Orchestra which I use. This unit looks promising.

Probably the Novation ReMOTE has the best synth key feel with aftertouch. Price is double! It also sports a sharp white on blue backlit 2x16 character LCD.

I have been researching some more 49 key USB controllers:

4. M-Audio Radium 49
http://tinyurl.com/d9v27

5. Emu Xboard 49
http://tinyurl.com/8bycu

6. Korg Kontrol 49
http://tinyurl.com/dmusy

7. Fatar StudioLogic VMK149
http://tinyurl.com/82kyv

8. CME UF5
http://tinyurl.com/bzgd4

The Fatar and CME brands offers hammer action within a 49 key layout. The first of its kind.

Well, I will be spending this holiday weekend scouring all the music shops in my area to get a first hand feel for these controllers and order one next week.

I would appreciate any feedback on these models.

Regards,

Tapas

Tapas, checkout this RELATED THREAD .

I've been hearing GOOD things about CME USB keyboard controllers. Fully weighted piano (hammer-action) keys, and at BARGAIN (made in China) prices .

CME Website

Scott

Hi Scott,

Thanks for pointing me to the CME news link. Now I am getting advise from the Pro!
The 49 key UF5 with semi-weighted keys is an outstanding bargain for $199.

Just came back from Guitar Center and Sam Ash. I checked out a few. No one carries the Novation brand. Must be special ordered.

I loved the feel of the Emu Xboard 49 Synth Action Keys. Simply marvelous. Guitar Center is selling them this weekend for $169. That’s an unbeatable deal. The Emu key action trounces the M-Audio series.

I liked the semi-weighted Roland A37 as well. Great MIDI controller, but lacks USB.

The Korg Kontrol 49 caught my attention too. The key feel is identical to the Korg Triton Le. It is a tad too expensive ($399).

The Edirol PCR-M50 is priced right. AudioMIDI.com is offering them for $219 with free shipping:
http://tinyurl.com/e4gbh

Having 49 keys is perfect for a desktop controller. 61 keys are too wide to fit when you add in the computer keyboard and mouse. The depth is also a factor. The Edirol PCR-M50 is sleek, whereas the Korg and Novation takes up more depth.

The Korg has LCD readouts over each of the 8 banks of sliders and knobs that change color – red/yellow/green plus has that convenient matrix of trigger pads and a vector joystick.

Decisions, decisions!

Tapas

PS. Scott: I am enjoying all your late breaking news on the Tyros2. Keep them coming!

First I have ever heard of CME. Thank you Scott. The fully-weighted 88 scares me a lttle after reading the following, but it just shows yet again how subjective and personal this kind of decision is:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/CME/

I had an M Audio radium 61. Great functionality, horrible plastic feeling keys and board. A37 feels fine to me, but I too would like a USB version.

I haven't tried the Korg Kontrol yet, but 49 keys isn't enough for me anyway, except when I'm controlling and analog synth or emulation of one. The microkorg controller was very functional, but the minikeys killed it for me.

Let us know what you decide to get and how you like it please.

AJ

Thanks Michael for pointing me to the CME reviews. I am striking this off my list! Proper USB implementation is a tricky thing. You must have well designed drivers. I am not trusting the CME brand. Too new.

Roland and Korg are the best when it comes to proper MIDI protocols, system exclusive data transfers and good drivers. Roland always provides solid drivers that work well with XP and Sonar. Roland, XP and Sonar are very tightly integrated.

I downloaded the Korg Kontrol Owner’s Manual. This thing is a control freaks dream machine. Endless possibilities. AJ, you would have been very happy if you had the full size key version.

I have two more days to finalize my research. I will let you guys know next week.

Thanks DNJ. I read all the PCR info on the Roland site, downloaded the PC editor and the relevant control map templates.

I found that I have a compatible USB Host Controller. This takes away the guess work.

Looks like it is going to be the PCR-M50 for me!

Tapas