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#164266 - 08/06/07 02:42 PM Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
I've posted in the past about how much I like the Mega guitars from Yamaha, and about my hopes that I might be able to add them to my G70's tone palette. Could anyone who has tried to integrate Yamaha and Roland arrangers (or arrangers and modules) together please post their experiences...?

There are two main areas of concern, for me... Firstly, does the Mega voice system from Yamaha involve the use of MIDI CC#s, or is all the control done from notes (Roland only allow a very small number of CC#s in Style Mode, although SMFs can send anything)? Specifically, all the Mega information about damped notes, mutes, body knocks, pick noises, etc..

Are they triggered JUST with MIDI notes, or does it involve CC#s?

And, in the case of arranger-arranger linking, is it possible to sync the two together tightly enough for performance. Sync start issues, MIDI clock 'jitter', triggering fills from remote arrangers, etc....

I am not expecting to be able to call up registrations remotely on the Yamaha (but it'd be nice if I could!), but once BOTH arrangers are set up to sync start, can fills and intro/endings be synchronized?

Anyone with any real world experience, please post here with your opinions...
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#164267 - 08/06/07 03:09 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Diki ...your not thinking of jumping ship
Let me ask you this if the T2 had 76 keys would you dump your G70? If so Why?

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#164268 - 08/06/07 03:30 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Diki, why bother with the hassle..For a few[very few] sounds ...why screw up what the G70 does better than any other keyboard.."Sounds great as a stand alone board"

If you continue this quest..you will find sync problems[ I should say out of sync timing problems], using both units , even with a single clock..

I tried to use a Roland 5080[flagship] with my G1000, and it [5080] had glitches trying to stay with the G1000..

I also tried to hear PSR2100 sounds with the G1000 arranger playing out...The Yamaha sounds made me want to throw away the PSR2100...but I sold it[2 of them] instead..

Spend time playing the Tyros2 next to the G70, and you will get over this desire...The Yamaha doesn't bring enough to the plate...in fact it steals from the plate...

You have the best..play it


This is my opinion, so you Yamaha people stay civil, unless you have played these two side by side for any period of time..You do not know where I am coming from..


Maybe we will liven up SZ again..
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#164269 - 08/06/07 03:39 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:

The Yamaha doesn't bring enough to the plate...in fact it steals from the plate...



Thankfully you haven't lost your sense of humor Fran....but I am a bit concerned about your sense of reality.

Ian
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#164270 - 08/06/07 03:40 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Ian, please tell me what it brings to the plate?
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#164271 - 08/06/07 03:46 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
What the Tyros takes from the plate[meaning it compromises what the G70 already has on the plate]..is an inferior mic/harmonizer...real drawbar organs....guitar mode....make up tools ...just to name a few...

And sounds from Tyros2...sorry none impress me...


I respect your opinions, but I would respect them more if you played the competition as well...and then gave a legitimate comparison..
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#164272 - 08/06/07 03:50 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Sure....SA voices, Mega Voices, terrific OS...I'm sure you must agree they are incredible features...if you are open-minded?

You must learn to think outside the Roland box, my friend...

Ian
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Yamaha Tyros4, Yamaha MS-60S Powered Monitors(2), Yamaha CS-01, Yamaha TQ-5, Yamaha PSR-S775.

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#164273 - 08/06/07 03:52 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Fran, I have played the G70....and the G1000, and the E-600.

Nice keyboards.

Ian
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#164274 - 08/06/07 03:59 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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#164275 - 08/06/07 04:00 PM Re: Anyone tried integrating Roland and Yamaha?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
all the new stuff is great!!!!
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