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#164390 - 12/20/05 10:32 PM
Re: The Keyboard Vs The Player
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Senior Member
Registered: 11/25/00
Posts: 1211
Loc: Queretaro, Mexico
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Just my 2 cents..... I am a Pro keyboardist (for the last 38 years), I have play from the non-automatic Hammond B-3s, X-66, Electones D2B, E10R, FX1, Hs6, EL90, Ketron X1HD, SD1, to my latest PSR3000 and soon to became a T2 and the Korg PA60to became a PA1X, also I work as keyboard specialist at a music store in Phoenix Az, I have hear people at the store make the T2 & PA1X sound bad......non intentionally, so, I agree, with KeithB and renig.... The player has not just play, but know how to use the keyboard features into an arrangement, so it sounds like a CD but in real time.
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#164394 - 12/21/05 12:15 AM
Re: The Keyboard Vs The Player
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Senior Member
Registered: 02/23/01
Posts: 3849
Loc: Rome - Italy
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I will relate a personal anecdote. Many years ago I was in a music shop where a friend of mine worked and he was demoing a keyboard for a customer. I noticed that while he played he kept his face and his body dead still, without showing any emotions, like he was thinking of something else, so (when the client walked away) I asked him: "Why is it that you never show emotions while you play? Why dont't you ever close your eyes or move your head or your body?" His reply: "Because the customer has to think that what I am doing is easy and he will be able to do the same things at home, once he buys the keyboard".
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Korg Kronos 61 and PA3X-Pro76, Roland G-70, BK7-m and Integra 7, Casio PX-5S, Fender Stratocaster with Fralin pickups, Fender Stratocaster with Kinman pickups, vintage Gibson SG standard.
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#164395 - 12/21/05 01:13 AM
Re: The Keyboard Vs The Player
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Senior Member
Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 1457
Loc: Athens, Greece
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Kudos to your friend, Andrea.
Being strictly a non-pro player (not that I could be a pro even if I tried) I want to say that a better keyboard will definitely make ME sound better, and I believe will make a good player sound EVEN better/believable.
Technique is one thing, but to convince the audience that something serious is going on, you have to have the sounds as well. When you play a sax, it has to sound like a sax, not like a drunk mosquito, or people will say it sucks. (Here's a rhyme for you). Of course sounds alone will not make a fingerless/brainless man play, but at least can help him save the day (another rhyme).
I realised that, after playing with Hypercanvas and HQ Orchestra for a while. Just hearing the same old styles of my keyboard through the Hypercanvas sound engine, I was blown off, it made me/encouraged me to actually play better, because I could milk more expression out of the Hypercanvas sounds, and sound more like "the record". I even uploaded a song for Synthzoners to hear, I was that happy. Same with the HQ Orchestra Concert piano. I never realised I could sound like that. Experienced musicians would instantly recognise an amateur with no left hand, but I could convince my friends (the actual crowd).
Ok, Peter Baartmans is a good player but if he plays a toy instrument, people will recognise, (in their subconcious at least) that a good player is playing a toy instrument.
All said and done, I believe customers will not give a damn, if you can just make them happy. In the end they won't be able to remember if it was the Roland XP-80 piano, or the P-60, or the Tyros, they will remember that the "guy playing the keyboard" offered them a good time. But I also believe that it has to be a decent arranger of a decent standard, Korg i3 and upwards, maybe a Casio WK, but not a Casio lighted keyboard. Theodore
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