LOL.... actually, you play a 'home' keyboard. I play a 'pro' one! (at least, that's how MY manufacturer describes it!)

But seriously....

Having lost one of my most essential workflow features to idiot 'market research' that decided not enough morons used this feature, I tend to be a bit more wary of the idea that arrangers SHOULD be optimized for the lowest common denominator. Hence my lack of humor about this...!

In fact, I think that Yamaha has one of the most 'pro', advanced OS's out there, with MANY features that I can only dream about (or whine futilely at Roland about!). Multiple drum tracks, synchronized arranger and SMF players, arranger based lyrics displays, break/fills rather than break/mutes, multi-pads, the list goes on...

But, as I've said before, sadly Roland use a 'home' OS in a 'pro' form factor and live sound, and Yamaha use a 'pro' OS on arrangers with 'home' form factor and sound. It a mixed up, topsy-turvy world we live in!

Instructional video DVDs easy & advanced SHOULD BE MANDATORY included with all KB Purchases...let these manufacturers spend some of the gazillions on quality DVds to HELP players ....but why should they? then people would learn the unit well enough to keep it longer and not buy the next greatest rehashed toy they produce....there's always an underlying reason ..........& most times its about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

...and yet, knowing that.........



chas

MY arranger manufacturer likes to play around with the word "pro" as well, but I KNOW what I play, and I accept it as a HOME keyboard.

If it has "easy play chords", "one touch settings" and "auto-accompaniment" then it's a HOME keyboard.

If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.

This flagrant use of the word "pro" reminds me of a car analogy... manufacturers used to put stripes, fake hood scoops, and a "GT" badge on a wheezy family sedan and call it a "Gran Turismo".

Reeks of Walter Mitty...some even believed it.

Oh well, back to my S900 and my dreams of fame and fortune.
Ian

You beat me to that one, chas!

gee I didnt know we had so many music experts around here ? must have missed that one somewhere along the line.btw chas when was the last tune you posted here on sz I think I missed that also?

Due to the weight and 'live-ness' of the sound, I have to take Roland seriously when they slap the 'pro' monicker on the G70. The 76 keys (apparently, Yamaha know full well no 'home user' ever wants that!) alone must make it a 'pro' only piece of kit...!

Yamaha's lone foray into the 'pro' arranger field was such a disaster they seem to be blind to the fact that other manufacturers ARE making these things. And staying in business, as hard as that is to do, nowadays. I just feel sad that, despite having a very 'pro' OS (considerably more sophisticated than what 99% of arranger players must surely use - how many PSR players do you know that intermix arranger play and SMFs at the same time?!), they don't case it in something that matches their workstation line.

And don't let anyone kid you... probably as few workstation users are full time pros as arranger users! Yet they receive the full on treatment, no cut corners in build quality or sound. Only arranger users get that raw deal...

Why is that?

It's a duck, Diki, don't be fooled by the
nomenclature and please don't quack up at my reply.

The G70 is a very nice 76-note HOME arranger nevertheless...I will give you that.

The fact that it's so heavy should tell you it wasn't meant to be moved...stays on the nest.

The fact that it has "easy play chords" and "one touch setting" should also tell you it has webbed feet.

No, my dear boy, face it...it's a duck...a nice duck, but a duck for sure.

Isn't that just ducky.

Ian

Mmmmmm...that's a strange statement, Donny.

Ian




[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 10-13-2007).]

Don't worry Ian. That's the standard "lash back" line whenever they feel offended, or more accurately, recognize the face in the mirror. Obviously, my posting or not posting a tune has absolutely nothing to do with anything is this post. Maybe the anesthesia hasn't worn off yet.

Donny (or "King" if you prefer), I wasn't attacking you; I think most of us thought it amusing that you, of all people, would be preaching against the policy of buying new keyboards (and subsequently proclaiming them the 'greatest ever') what seems like, every few months. Sorry if you can't see the irony (and hypocrisy) in this. Maybe some of you "dear friends" can explain it to you. Get well soon.

chas