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#166668 - 04/24/07 07:05 AM Re: Live sound PA system advice
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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Originally posted by frankieve:
I am a dealer for Samson and Behringer,
Frank



Frank sorry but I gotta be honest ...these two brands are on the bottom of my gear list & I wouldn't recommend them at all to anyone..... do an A/B test with some top brands like Mackie, EV, Yorkville, JBL, Barbetta, Bose, etc and see if you want to waste the money or go for a bit more and get a quality sound your audience deserves it.Thats just my opinion.

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#166669 - 04/24/07 09:08 AM Re: Live sound PA system advice
Jerry T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/05
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Loc: Phila. 'burbs, Pa. USA
Bose L1 with one B1. Go for it ... It's well worth the investment. It's portable enough for a feeble oldster like me, sounds great, and the after-the-purchase support is unparalleled.
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#166670 - 04/24/07 09:44 AM Re: Live sound PA system advice
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
DNJ,

I just assumed there was a price point.

I personally use an Allen & Heath board.

When it comes to powered mixers and smaller speakers systems, until you truelly spend the big bucks there will be of course a small increase in sound quality.

Of course a $300 cabinet will not sound as good as a $500 cabinet, but all of this will also depend on where it is being used, how, what's feeding it also.

In my first post I did say one of my questions for a customer would be, what is your budget, of course it's easy to say I would get this or that, but if he can't afford it, then oh well.

I called Peavey to become a dealer and they said 10 grand for an opening order.

Not today for me anyway.

I also sell Alesis, RCF ( which is the mackie supplier for drivers )
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#166671 - 04/24/07 09:45 AM Re: Live sound PA system advice
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Loc: Milford, CT, USA
oh yeah,

I use 4 Bose L1 double bass systems too.
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#166672 - 04/24/07 09:47 AM Re: Live sound PA system advice
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
I am also a believer in powered speakers, for versatility and quality as others have mentioned[matched amp to speaker]..I always use a non powered mixer with powered speakers and a powered sub woofer..

You can always adjust your set up for any room..Maybe one powered speaker, or a pair in stereo...add a sub woofer if you need the bottom[dance music]..If you blow a speaker you can rely on the other one to get you through the job, probably without any notable difference..You can use a powered speaker on the floor for good bass response and another in the air for coverage..There are just better applications and backup measures available with powered units..

Second concept..you never can go wrong with quality equipment..It is an investment...invest in quality that will give you a return...My equipment is still serving me twenty years later...and still competes with anything out there..
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#166673 - 04/24/07 10:54 AM Re: Live sound PA system advice
cassp Offline
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Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 3748
Loc: Motown
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
Second concept..you never can go wrong with quality equipment..It is an investment...invest in quality that will give you a return...My equipment is still serving me twenty years later...and still competes with anything out there..


I'll second and third that!!! Nothing beats quality. Price and budget must be considerations, but quality has to be the final determiner.
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#166674 - 04/24/07 04:32 PM Re: Live sound PA system advice
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
I fourth that !!!!

You get what you pay for.

But also remember just because you have the best equipment does not make up for experience and talent.

You have to know how to use it.

A person with great talent can do wonders with any type of equipment.

A person with little expereince or talent can not make a great piece of equipment sing
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#166675 - 04/24/07 04:48 PM Re: Live sound PA system advice
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4723
For what I do (50 - 150), the Yamaha Stagepas 300 has enought power, bass, sound quality and built-in reverb ($400). They have a 500 watt model now too.

zuki
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#166676 - 04/24/07 08:32 PM Re: Live sound PA system advice
Scott Langholff Offline
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Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 3163
Loc: Pensacola, Florida, USA
Hi John

Am wondering what you are using for a sub now, z2300 or z5500? Also, those JBL's are actually only 23 lbs rather than 34 lbs which is what the z5500 sub weighs and is the set up I use when I want the windows to rattle.

If I went to something larger and heavier I admit there is a temptation to get non- powered speakers to keep it light, but, with powered speakers if one isn't working right, you can finish the gig. If you are using non-powered speakers and a PA head, if the head goes, you are sunk unless you carry extra equipment, and to me that is extra work for nothing

Scott

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#166677 - 04/26/07 05:34 AM Re: Live sound PA system advice
MarcK Offline
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Registered: 07/27/01
Posts: 205
After much research and considering the advice offered here, I think I'm going to go with the JBL Eon G2 15's. The Mackie 450's (same price) seem to get reports of lacking a good low end. Has anyone had good/bad experiences with either of these speakers? How do they compare? They are expensive at $700 a pop but I do care about quality and I see it as an investment. And then there are the stands, cases, cables, and the mixer of course (though I can get away with a fairly simple one for my needs).....this ain't gonna be cheap....

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