I have not demoed the PSR 3000 yet but I was wondering about two things: Can you trigger the arranger functions with the RH while playing LH bass? Can you edit the styles on the 3000 (like on the Tyros, etc...)?

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No. Unfortunately Auto Accomp can only be assigned to LEFT (hand) part.

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Yes. the PSR3000's 'style editing' features are identical to the Tyros and accessed via 'style creator'.

Scott

Scotteye

Is there a "full keyboard" mode where the entire keyboard can trigger the arranger functions. It's like playing the piano, I believe...my old technics has it and the rolands and korgs do as well. Come to think of it, solton does too. (In fact solton has the right hand triggerring capabilities, too, I think.)

Will that work with sounds layered acroos the keys?

Are there any keyboards - other than solton -that allow RH triggerring?

Korg Pa80, you can trigger both left or right hand and full keyboard.

Yep, the PSR3000 supports 'full keyboard' mode arranger recognition, though imo, not nearly as well as Technics does.

Scott

The full Keyboard mode works just great for a friend of mine who uses it exclusively. I believe it's just a matter of what mode you feel comfortable with.

Gary

If you play LH bass, you forfit the arranger features.....which is precisely WHY I make that choice much of the night. When I play bass ... all I need is drums and chords to back up my vocals. When I call on the whole "ensemble" .... I use what I'm given from the arranger and just chord over top with the RH to make it my own.

I have the yamaha PSR8000 (still) You dont have to lose the arranger function by playing the bass in the left hand. A compromise is to mute the accomaniment bass, split the keyboard and transpose the left hand side of the split down an octave or so. Select a basss sound for the left hand .You can alter the way that the accomaniment follows the chords you play so that it triggers on the chord that you are playing. It takes a little experimenting to find the setting that suits you best but i have found i am able to play nice funky bass patterns with my left hand and chords with the right and still maintain the arranger function.

Another trick that i discovered only recentley when considering upgrading to the PAX1

Thanks everyone. Your replies are helpful.

UD - so when you play LH bass and just use drums, have you sequenced the drums or do you use the internal pattern pretty much as it comes?

Spalding - how then are you triggerring the arranger - with the right hand or left? Does your approach translate to the 3000?

I use preset drum patterns when I play manual bass. I fail to see how you can trigger arranger featurs with single notes, unless you only play in major keys all the time and have simple, 3 or 4 chord songs.
Yamaha's priority method of LH arranger triggers will only allow major chords from a single note. Most songs I do, except for the simplest R&R or country, have at least a few variences to them.

Playing LH bass lines with RH playing full chords along to an electronic drum machine has been a popular acoustic piano playing style ever since the advent of the drum machine (1970's). It only makes logical sense for Yamaha to now finally join the other arranger kb manufacterers (Korg etc) by including FULL auto accomp (albeit muting bass & piano parts) to the mix which would allow you to play LH bass & RH chords, with further enhancement of auto accomp strings, horn/guitar fills, etc.

I hope Yamaha will seriously consider adding this feature on their NEXT arranger keyboard model.

Scott

Thanks UD...and AMEN to Scottyee!!! That would be most welcom and very appropriate.

the keyboard is played in pianist mode so the entire keyboard is effectively scanned to recognise the chord that is being played.

I can't believe that RH chord recognition is not available on Yamaha arrangers. Even my dinosaur Korgi30 recognizes RH chording.

Does the Yahama chord recognition work in Full Keyboard mode? I play 95% full keyboard mode.

I split the board for voice or horn licks in the sync stop mode like for Ray Charles "Smack Dab In The Middle"

So, Spalding...I CAN actually split the keyboard, assign different sounds to each side, but still be in "full mode" to trigger arranger functions? My technics KN2000/3000 do not do that as far as I know!

What is "stop sync", Brickboo?

Sync-stop on the Korg i30 is for when there is a break with maybe the whole band hitting a note or a chord on the first beat of a measure, or the first and third beat with out the rhythm (style) playing. Such as the first 4 bars of "Don't Step On My Blue Swede Shoes," "Smack Dab In The Middle"

If you play in full kb mode, with the kb split, you will get a lot orf weird inversions to your chords whenever the bass note is not the root of the chord.
I can't imagine using full arranger mode with split kb sounds, if the LH sound is a moving bass line.

i have just tried it Uncle dave playing a gospel walking bass and it sounds fine so long as i hold the chord in my right hand. I am am playing mostly major 7ths and minors. Just tried Amazing Grace in a bluesy type jazz style. Seems ok

ykc Yes

I don't understand the full keyboard split concept. If I play full keyboard it is all piano, Guitar or whatever sound I'm using. I thought after using split it wasn't full keyboard anymore. Help me out here someone.

I use a lot of half diminished chords which are the same notes as a minor chord with the 6th added, I use tons of flated ninths, raised ninths, flated fifth or raised fourth whatever you want to call it so on and so forth and it doesn't mess up the korg or I'd hear it. Take my word for it.