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#172952 - 10/26/04 06:47 PM Re: Sequences in Multipad
Michael P. Bedesem Offline
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Registered: 11/26/99
Posts: 142
Loc: Shrewsbury, VT
You can experience strange effects due to hanging events in MultiPads.

If you desire, I will attempt to discover the problem. Please send the file and how you encounter the problem to mpb@sover.net

Regards,

Michael

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Originally posted by drdalet:
Leo, it worked
I edited the Pan and Reverb of the multipad in XGworks and it sounds much better now. But it is easier to do it the next time as you described it. The problem with the timing is still a mystery.
Sometimes I play multipad 1 and 2, and they are in sync with the style drums. Then, exactly in time, I press multipad 3 and it comes late. If I let it play, the next round is OK - so there is a gap between the end of multipad 3 en the beginning of the first repeat - multipad 1 and 2 just play on. Sometimes it sounds funny too.


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#172953 - 10/27/04 03:57 AM Re: Sequences in Multipad
drdalet Offline
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Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 187
Loc: Amersfoort, Netherlands
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Originally posted by Dreamer:
DrDalet, I had the same timing problem you were referring to. I have seen that it can be overcome editing an existing multipad (instead of creating a new one from scratch); another advantage is that all the settings have been arranged already.

In my case I would have to edit everything, voices, play notes, correct reverb and panning, so why not start from scratch?
I have some ideas about the timing problem.

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Originally posted by Michael Bedesem:
If you desire, I will attempt to discover the problem. Please send the file and how you encounter the problem to mpb@sover.net


Michael, I noticed that the timing mistake always occurs after I use the variationbutton again to trigger a fill-in. If I press a multipadbutton on the first beat right after that, it starts late or on the wrong count. If I wait a round, it is OK. If one of the multipads was already running, the next multipadbutton I press is late. Somehow the multipads timing derails.
So my next test will be playing without breaks and fill-ins, press the button always on the first beat of a fourbar sequence and see if the problem still occurs.
I also noticed that variation B, C and D are 4 bars, but variation A only 2. So I already made variation A also 4 bars, so everything has the same barlength (also the multipads are 4 bars each)
If this doesn't help and I have no more ideas I will gladly send you the file to have a look at it.

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#172954 - 10/27/04 04:25 AM Re: Sequences in Multipad
Dreamer Offline
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Drdalet wrote:
In my case I would have to edit everything, voices, play notes, correct reverb and panning, so why not start from scratch?

Well, I have a feeling that, if you edit an existing multipad, your timing problems would "magically" disappear...
Furthermore, if you can be satisfied with a drums multipad (i.e. one with only percussive sounds), you could get away just modifying the drums notes. Personally, I would never try to create a multipad or a style using Megavoices.
Good luck in your endeavour.
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#172955 - 10/27/04 09:24 AM Re: Sequences in Multipad
drdalet Offline
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Registered: 09/28/03
Posts: 187
Loc: Amersfoort, Netherlands
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Originally posted by Dreamer:
Well, I have a feeling that, if you edit an existing multipad, your timing problems would "magically" disappear...

That is possible. Still, I am a bit of a professor and want to know how things work. If nothing works, I will be really gratefull for your advice, so thanks for that.
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Originally posted by Dreamer:
Furthermore, if you can be satisfied with a drums multipad (i.e. one with only percussive sounds), you could get away just modifying the drums notes. Personally, I would never try to create a multipad or a style using Megavoices.

I am not satisfied with drums multipads. I have not found any use for them. I made use of the multipads for the strings in One Day I'll fly away .(my first attempt on the PSR3K) and the one I'm working on now.
And using Megavoices - - that would be a real challenge, but I am quite happy with the panelvoices too.
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Originally posted by Dreamer:
Good luck in your endeavour.

Thank you very much.


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#172956 - 10/30/04 07:30 AM Re: Sequences in Multipad
LeoD Offline
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Registered: 10/25/04
Posts: 33
Loc: Lusk, Co. Dublin . Rep.of Irel...
Scottyee,
I've sent you a private e-mail seperate subject. Meanwhile the synchronising of M.Pads is down to ...a) starting pad rec. on 1st beat of bar....then when playing you must bring pad in exactly on 1st Bt also

If you miss-time the Pad intro ...just watch the Red flash button (1st Bt) & simply hit pad button again. A lot of my M.Pads are long..countermelodies...if while playing you want Pad to restart at the begining (in mid sequence) simply hit Pad button ...on 1st beat of a bar.

LeoD


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#172957 - 10/30/04 07:47 AM Re: Sequences in Multipad
LeoD Offline
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Registered: 10/25/04
Posts: 33
Loc: Lusk, Co. Dublin . Rep.of Irel...
Hey Guys,
LeoD M.Pads were created on 9k and more recently...the longer pad sequences..on Tyros. I do all my Pads on the KBD...in real time, and never use quantizise ...as I think it reduces 'Expression'
A note of warning...when you assign a M.Pad to a Style, or a Reg...the OS of T
memorises the link by M.Pad NAME.+ Pic. & its file/folder location...so be careful about making changes to Names/Pics...AFTER you have assigned Pads.....if you do make this error the M.Pad will 'default' to preset M.Pad 1..Hip Hop..I think..

LeoD

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