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#174050 - 01/27/05 08:42 AM Left hand on the PSR 2100
bruno123 Offline
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Hi,
It's about four weeks since I got my PSR 2100. It is a friendly keyboard so the learning curve is too bad. But ---- the left hand, aaaahhh. How does one keep it where it is, on and without change.
I can take a style, edit it and put it in the user section and I then get what I want. Is there no way for the registration to remember it? It does remember the right hand settings.
If I put the left hand on piano, then press a variation on the style, with the OTS button on, it selects a different instrument and shuts the left hand off. (It is OTS isn't it?)

I use the left hand most of the time, any help would be appreciated, Thanks, John C.

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#174051 - 01/27/05 09:51 AM Re: Left hand on the PSR 2100
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Hi John C,

Oddly enough, on Yamaha arranger keyboard's, the LEFT voice settings are stored in "Registration Memory Content's" (acessed by pressing the Memory button on your PSR2100), in the "STYLE" group checkbox, and not with the "other voice settings (Main, Layer, etc) in the VOICE" group checkbox.

If you want to save a style and save the LEFT Hand voice settings as well as the MAIN, LAYER, and other voice settings, you must remember to check both the "STYLE" and "VOICE" box in Memory Contents. If you want to maintain the LEFT voice selection assignment while freely changing styles, here's my workaround solution:
http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/002610.html

Scott
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#174052 - 01/27/05 10:18 PM Re: Left hand on the PSR 2100
Uncle Dave Offline
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Doesn't the OTS remember LH sound data too?
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#174053 - 01/28/05 11:03 AM Re: Left hand on the PSR 2100
Scottyee Offline
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Yes, the Tyros, PSR3000,2000,& 2100 Preset Styles (with OTS) all include stored LH voice selections. The PROBLEM is that when called up via OTS: buttons 1-4, the LEFT voice "on/off" status is always OFF (no sound heard). This makes "NO SENSE"! Really Weird!

Scott
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#174054 - 01/28/05 11:15 AM Re: Left hand on the PSR 2100
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Sounds like a slimy BUG to me. I never noticed it, but then I seldom use a left-hand sound anyway.
I wish the OTS would NOT remember the octave change, but it does. I often start a song with Grand Piano down one octave, then call up a song from OT, such as a guitar, and it's still down an octave.
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#174055 - 01/28/05 11:24 AM Re: Left hand on the PSR 2100
Scottyee Offline
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Interesting that Yamaha either didn't catch it, or won't acknowledge the problem, as the LEFT Voice problem works the SAME way on all their keyboards which include OTS: from the PSR2000 to PSR2100, to the Tyros, and now, even the PSR3000. - Scott
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#174056 - 01/28/05 02:08 PM Re: Left hand on the PSR 2100
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
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Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Scott,fantastic, your instructions were clear and the left hand sounds are staying where I want them.

In my best day I would not have thought of creating a style then deleting it. Your mind goes where most do not,scary!!

Thank you, thank you, John C.

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#174057 - 01/28/05 04:10 PM Re: Left hand on the PSR 2100
Scottyee Offline
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John, you're VERY welcome. I admit that I was as frustrated (if not more so) than you when I initially discovered that Yamaha (for whatever bizarre reason) designed their arranger keyboard OS (who did they hire for R&D & design engineers anyway?) to store the LEFT Voice in "STYLE" memory contents, and not with all the other voices (RT1 RT2, MAIN, LAYER, etc) in "VOICE" memory contents, as would have been expected. I was on the verge of abolishing my PSR2000 (my first Yamaha arranger) but then 'woke up' one night with the idea of creating a bogus style file of which a registration would not actually be able to call up later. I must admit it was a stroke of luck to have discovered this workaround, because if I hadn't, I definitely wouldn't be playing a Yamaha keyboard today. - Scott
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