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#174111 - 10/30/04 03:02 PM Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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On e-bay, but only 12 miles from me. I'm going to go look at it as soon as my youngun gets up from her nap.

No leslie, and I'll need a TREK II TP3B for it.

I'm seriously thinking of getting a MotionSound PRO 145 (leslie) for it too, that way I can use it with the Hammond or the V-Combo.


Hmmm....

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#174112 - 11/01/04 08:32 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
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A Hammond C2 for $550.00???? Seems like an extremely low price. Is it working?
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#174113 - 11/01/04 01:56 PM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
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Sounds like a real find. You'll definately want to try doppler effect amplification.

I have a Motion sound top rotor box which i use with a Hammond XP-2. I don't think they make them anymore. I has a moving horn and bottom simulator. It "ain't" a 147RV, but it is about the size of a small suitcase. Of course, when I can, I use a B-3 and a 147RV.


Have fun!

Russ

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#174114 - 11/01/04 06:42 PM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
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Don't get the Pro-145. I've heard from a few people that the sound it too muffled. However the MS Pro-3Tm combined with the Low-Pro LP-120 I've heard makes a very good combo. The Pro-3Tm is just the horn with bass rotor simulation. Connected to the LP-120 which is the drum section, it acts as a full rotary speaker. Or you could search for a leslie speaker. Hope the C2 works out for you, it sounds like an excellent buy.
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#174115 - 11/02/04 10:07 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Thanks for the input guys. I ordered a pair of Roll or Karis from the factory which should be here friday and I have a 5x8 U-Haul trailer lined up for saturday, at which time I'll actually pick it up.

My next aquisition will be a tone cabinet, even before the percussion upgrade.

Oh well, off to ebay ...

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#174116 - 11/02/04 10:10 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by RyanS:
Don't get the Pro-145. I've heard from a few people that the sound it too muffled. However the MS Pro-3Tm combined with the Low-Pro LP-120 I've heard makes a very good combo. The Pro-3Tm is just the horn with bass rotor simulation. Connected to the LP-120 which is the drum section, it acts as a full rotary speaker. Or you could search for a leslie speaker. Hope the C2 works out for you, it sounds like an excellent buy.


The cool thing about the Pro 145 is that it already has 3 built-in mics inside the cabinet. Then you output those to a PA.

I may still try one for 30 days...

Thanks for the input Ryan.

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#174117 - 11/02/04 10:27 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Aha!! The game is afoot, Watson ...

Haha ...




[This message has been edited by Jon Doe (edited 11-02-2004).]

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#174118 - 11/02/04 10:58 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
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Take a look at the Leslie Model 21 which sells for $900.00 us. I hear it's pretty good.
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#174119 - 11/02/04 11:40 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
Take a look at the Leslie Model 21 which sells for $900.00 us. I hear it's pretty good.


I want to try to match a L122 to it. A L145 is a shorter version of the L122. Same guts, just a shorter cabinet. If you look at the picture of the amp by itself and enlarge the pic you'll see that it says Leslie Type 122 on the red ID plate.


The cool thing about it is that it is right here in town so I won't have to pay shipping on it. I'll just go pick it up.



[This message has been edited by Jon Doe (edited 11-02-2004).]

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#174120 - 11/02/04 01:39 PM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
captain Russ Offline
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You'll really need a percussion upgrade on
that particular instrument. I bought a c-3 from a church several years ago and had the local guy do the percussion upgrade. I'll try to contact him this week-end to get details.


You'll soon have a "monster" on your hands!


Russ

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#174121 - 11/02/04 01:52 PM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by captain Russ:
You'll really need a percussion upgrade on
that particular instrument. I bought a c-3 from a church several years ago and had the local guy do the percussion upgrade. I'll try to contact him this week-end to get details.


You'll soon have a "monster" on your hands!


Russ


Yeah, the TREK II TP3B that I mentioned in my initial post is a percussion upgrade, but I think you have to replace the preamp in the hammond with their solid state preamp.

I'd be interested in knowing what other options ther are to do this.

thanks





[This message has been edited by Jon Doe (edited 11-02-2004).]

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#174122 - 11/02/04 02:03 PM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
captain Russ Offline
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I still prefer the sound of tube amplification, even in leslie effects. I keep a 147RV working, and for portable set-ups, I use a Motion sound tube driven top box, with a Fender bassman for the bottom. To me, this produces a much more authentic sound than transistor power. I'm the same way with guitar amplification. For some reason, transistor power dosen't bother me as much with bass guitar.

Russ

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#174123 - 11/16/04 09:53 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Update:

I got home last night and the tap-off kit I ordered from Speakeasy was on my doorstep so I dropped everything and wired that in. I ran a 1/4" cord from the C2 to my KC550 and started her up. I let her run for a few minutes then pressed middle C.

Good Lord that organ sounds so pretty. That was the first time I actually made it produce sound so I could check it out. Everything is 100% functional.

Now that I know that I didn't buy damaged goods I can start shopping around for a tone cabinet. I may do a 30 day test drive on the MotionSound PRO 145 first just to get it out of my system if nothing else.

That organ is at least a year older than me. Too fun.

pic of my living room ...





[This message has been edited by Jon Doe (edited 11-16-2004).]

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#174124 - 11/16/04 10:53 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
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Wow!!! Congratulations. That is a nice setup.
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#174125 - 11/18/04 10:35 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Seattle, WA
'Nother update ...

This gal's serial number is 38102 which means she was built in 1950. She has ratcheting drawbars.

I think I'm going to rent a PRO 145 for the weekend to see how it sounds...

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#174126 - 12/20/04 11:12 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Update ....

After upgrading the drawbars to smooth ones from a B3 last month, I ...

Added a Leslie 6122 kit to enable hooking up a L122 family cab.

Purchased a L45 that had been converted to a L42 by putting a 122 amp in it anda 2-speed conversion kit, and thanks to cassp for the cable and controls..

And yesterday sucessfully installed a Trek II TP-2B percussion kit ...


I now have one absolutely BAD sounding Hammond C3. It brings tears to the eyes, guys.


I now own the ultimate B3 clone

To Do:

1. Play
2. Play
3. Play
4. Maybe replace the caps ....

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#174127 - 12/21/04 05:59 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
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I've seen a few C2's for sale cheap in my area (New York).

Would you say the sound of the C2 rivals that of a B2, B3, A100, or M1?
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#174128 - 12/21/04 10:37 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
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Loc: Motown
Except for the M1, all the others have the same sound generating mechanism, just different cabinets; the A has self-contained speakers.
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#174129 - 12/21/04 11:47 AM Re: Just boought a C2 for $550
Jon Doe Offline
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Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 44
Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
Originally posted by kbrkr:
I've seen a few C2's for sale cheap in my area (New York).

Would you say the sound of the C2 rivals that of a B2, B3, A100, or M1?



The only difference between the C2 and the C3 is that the C3 has a factory percussion unit that will do a second or third harmonic on the upper manual B preset.

My C2 with the aftermarket Trek II percussion unit will do 2nd, 3rd, and 5th harmonics and are implemented with sliders instead of rocker switches.
With this you can put in a lot of 2nd plus a little 3rd and/or 5th harmonics if you want. additionally, the decay is a slider as well, instead of the factory rocker that just does slow/fast.

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