YES SIR!!

YES SIR!!

Amazing they make the DGX and YGP series in 76 and 88 key models, sell for well under $1000 but can't make the S900 or T2 in 76 keys.

That's baffling.



[This message has been edited by Stephenm52 (edited 08-22-2007).]

Grow the mothers already!

Joe

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Songman55
Joe Ayala

There's gotta be more to this 76 key mystery then meets the eye

I have my doubts there will be a 76 note mid/TOTL arranger in Yamaha's future...but ya never know.

It's sad to see so many potential Yamaha buyers, who would definitely enjoy the delights of the fantastic SA and mega voices, miss out on them because of the lack of a 76 note keyboard.

It's a shame to see players forced into buying arrangers from other manufactures that don't offer these great features.

Hopefully Yamaha will "grow 'em and show 'em" in the near future so this horrible situation can be rectified.

Ian

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Common misconception...size and weight equal quality and performance. Don't be fooled.

I hope your right Ian......there was NO need to make three S series units that are so close to their predecessors....instead they should of concentrated on what the public wants ... 76 quality keys & a few other things !!!!

Donny,

I know there were some who were disappointed the S900 didn't have a 76 note keyboard as rumors before its release seemed to indicate it would.

Remarkably, it is selling extremely well with 61 keys.

Ian

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Common misconception...size and weight equal quality and performance. Don't be fooled.

I am sitting here loving/hating my new E60. I would probably be sitting here instead loving/hating an s900/s700 if it had 76 keys. because even though the E60 has other advantages (better keyfeel, better button layout, a dedicated balance knob, the killer scat vocal sound and a few others)it has more disadvantages (too many to go into here). another Yamaha conundrum: in their ypg and dgx 76-key series, they omit the "live!" grand piano sound that they offer on the 88's. the piano sound in the 76 is for the birds. so if they drop the 76's, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. By omitting a decent piano sound, they have created the "no-market" 76. And I can't understand why they have created the s700 whose only appeal vs s900 is price.. why didn't they make the s700 a 76-key at a higher price? I'll bet that would have sold a ton more s700's without hurting s900 sales!

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Miami Mo

I certainly can appreciate the desire for 76 (or better yet 88) keys when playing solo piano , but 61 notes suits me quite fine for strictly arranger mode playing. Auto accompaniment mode style playing is a totally different style of playing than solo piano. With split point set at F#2, I have 1-1/2 octaves for triggering & voicing full chords with smooth voice leading, in LH, yet still have 3-1/2 octaves for RH melody playing & soloing, of which is only a mere 1/2 octave less than I've got on my Steinway Grand Piano from middle C to the top of the keyboard (high C). For the occasional solo piano style playing songs I do in a night, I'm able to live with 61 keys for the convenience of the smaller form factor & lighter weight keyboard (sorry to have to bring up that sore topic again ) 61 keys offers. If and when I want to dedicate an evening of solo piano performance, I've got the flexibility to bring along my Roland A33 76 controller and midi it to my Tyros2 KB. Considering I don't recall any "solo keyboard" (non arranger mode) performed songs shared on this forum, wondering just how much arranger players would actually benefit having 76 keys.

As some of you know, I was hired by Yamaha thru an independent consulting firm to give my input on future Yamaha arrangers, and this question was posed to me. I told them that if Yamaha could design a portable arr keyboard with 76 keys not exceeding the case size of Tyros2, I would be all for it, but I that I'd not be willing to compromise a significant increase in size and weight to gain that. Afterall, Yamaha tried 76 keys on the 50 lb 76 note 9000pro arranger, and it flopped here in the US, so I'm sure they still have cold feet doing that again soon.

I was told that Yamaha's extensive consumer market research confirmed the same, and the reason the Tyros2 & S900 PSR (aka: Portable) keyboards remain at 61 keys.

That all said, how often (percentage of playing) do people here actually play their arrangers as a full fledged piano utilizing all 76 keys? Those with 76 arranger, would love to hear your solo piano songs.

Scott

Its selling because of the SA etc.. for the I wish I had a T2 but this will do for now crowd.....but dont be fooled....there are many that would buy or switch to Yamaha in minute IF THEY ONLY HAD 76/88 quality KEYS......its that Important! There was a board meeting....there was a discussion, and for what ever wacky reason after that meeting a decision was reached to NOT MAKE A 76 or 88 quality KEY arranger, & probably by some idiot who doesnt even play an arrranger KB......finding out that reason is the key to this problem.