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#177393 - 06/12/07 06:08 PM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
tony mads usa Offline
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... and I also play with duos or trios ...
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#177394 - 06/12/07 06:25 PM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
Dnj Offline
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I personally think its makes one much more talented, flexible, & versatile to an audience to be able to "do it all" showing off many skills, playing, singing, controlling, mixing it all up while performing then just playing repetitive arranger styles over & over again all the time. Some may look at it different, but that's my opinion.

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#177395 - 06/12/07 08:52 PM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
Diki Offline


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Loc: NW Florida
Yes, I wasn't so much interested in the 'styles vs. SMFs' debate (that's been beat to death), but more in whether you use arrangers in anything OTHER than OMB situations.

I feel there is quite a difference in outlook for those with musical partners as to how they use their arrangers compared to the solo performer (in general, at least), and different things have different needs. So I'm kind of asking to find out who the non-OMB guys (and gals!) are, so I can be more aware of who has what priorities, etc..

So, who else is not just a solo OMB....? (and I don't mean that disparagingly, just different... Objects in mirror... yada yada yada)
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#177396 - 06/13/07 05:02 AM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
zuki Offline
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I respectfully disagree with the notion that one cannot play every venue, if not using midi files. No thanks - they sound like garbage to me and I don't want to be the 10th person in a row using the same San Francisco midi file - where did originality go?
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#177397 - 06/13/07 05:21 AM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
Zuki, my friend you are so wrong....

I left my heart in SanFrancisco..isn't exactly the venue material I am talking about..

Try playing.."So many men".."It's raining men".."Come sail away".."Cool Jerk"..and hundreds of other signature songs...

Not even ..most of the top bands can pull this venue off..

I promise you..One man band performers, that play arranger only..can not play High energy venues, High roller parties etc..

Actually ..most arranger players would bomb out of any "gig" I do with the band....

I am being honest with you..I may have more experience working with all the "tools"...as we have discussed in the past..Be happy with what you are doing..I am happy for you, but don't be misguided...Styles, Mp3's SMF's...they are all needed to be well rounded..for those that disagree...Play SanFrancisco...
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#177398 - 06/13/07 05:24 AM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
spalding4 Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
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before we start disagreeing with each other (yet again) can we stick to the topic .....

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#177399 - 06/13/07 05:24 AM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
Dnj Offline
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Zuki have you put the time in to make those SMF sound better...that's part of what an arranger KB can do? I spend countless hours on perfecting each song, tweaking, adding markers, changing sounds, efx, etc, etc.
I also know players that only use SMF exclusivly & without ever using a style accompiament thruout the gig and sound fantastic. Plus it allowed you to play with both hands if not using full Kb mode....



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 06-13-2007).]

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#177400 - 06/13/07 05:31 AM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
Fran Carango Offline
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Spalding, we are not disagreeing for the heck of it..I was trying to show a point to my long time friend..
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#177401 - 06/13/07 02:10 PM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
Spalding1 Offline
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I know Fran but its ust so easy to move from the topic of the thread. It defeats the whole point of having a discussion topic and is unfair to the topic poster.
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#177402 - 06/13/07 05:29 PM Re: How many here are NOT OMB's?
zuki Offline
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Spalding -

I started the sway.......sorry

Fran and Donny - I respect your opinions. I'll keep working on a few to see if my perspective changes.

zuki
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