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#178170 - 05/01/03 02:20 AM The Tyros OS update sucks :(
Micco Offline
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Registered: 12/07/99
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Loc: Finland
Even this OS update didn´t give me what I wanted and Yamaha still doesn´t care of its customers that have Macs. The idea of making the OS update with floppy disks is very stupid and out of date. PC users can do it with USB and it is very easy, but Mac users have to start messing up with 21 floppy disks.

The worst thing is that I don´t have a floppy drive and I am not going to buy one. Macs haven´t had floppy drives for years so this way of updating is for those who own an older Mac and I think that almost all Tyros owners that use Mac, have a new model without the floppy drive like iMac.

This OS update didn´t make me any happier. In fact it made me even more angry. With this OS update I realized that Yamaha even despises Mac users.

Micco

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#178171 - 05/01/03 05:19 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
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Micco,
I'm sure you must have some friend with a pc that would upgrade the Tyros for you, or perhaps you can buy a used laptop/desktop and they sell dirt cheap, just for occasions like this, while you're waiting for the day if and when Yamaha makes their stuff more Mac friendly.

I doubt Yamaha hates Mac users and it is more a matter of economics.

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#178172 - 05/01/03 05:38 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
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Registered: 07/09/02
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I'd place more of the blame on the iMac, which has NO way to store data outside of the computer anyway without an external device. The absence of a floppy drive on newer Macs was purely a cost-cutting measure for Apple, not an indication of what their customers wanted. Apple wants you to buy whatever storage device you need, so here's a USB floppy drive for your Mac under $50:
http://www2.warehouse.com/product.asp?pf%5Fid=DR14623&cat=pc&blind=
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#178173 - 05/01/03 09:53 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Loc: Tampa, FL
Micco,

I really take exception to your Topic that the "Tyros OS update Sucks". You couldn't be more wrong.

Al
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#178174 - 05/01/03 10:24 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
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Originally posted by kbrkr:
Micco,

I really take exception to your Topic that the "Tyros OS update Sucks". You couldn't be more wrong.

Al


Al,
FWIW, I agree IMO it's the Mac's that suck not the Tyros. Apple ahould get their head out of their .....uh well you know. If someone wants to be a diehard Mac loyalist, while 99% of the world is geared towards PC, then they are not going to get a whole lot of sympathy from me about it. I've gone to buy a Mac on several occasions and never did with that being the primary reason.
Terry



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#178175 - 05/01/03 10:35 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
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Registered: 12/01/99
Posts: 10427
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, CA, US...
I agree with Al (kbrkr). Micco's anger and frustration towards Yamaha here is unwarranted.

Except for Yamaha, I don't believe there's ANY keyboard manufacterer out there (except possibly Technics) who offer downloadable 'user initiated' OS updates other than via floppy diskettes. Yamaha should be commended for being ahead of the game in offering both direct 'PC to Keyboard via USB' and floppy diskette 'user initiated' OS upgrade options. - Scott
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#178176 - 05/01/03 10:47 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
Jørgen Sørensen Offline
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Registered: 10/24/99
Posts: 361
Loc: Denmark
Hi Micco

You are screwing things up!
You blame Yamaha for the absence of an useable storage interface to the Mac!
Mail your anger to Apple... - or buy a PC!

Jørgen

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#178177 - 05/01/03 10:50 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
Micco Offline
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Registered: 12/07/99
Posts: 177
Loc: Finland
Many of my friends have PCs. Even my girlfriend has a PC and I did the last Tyros update with her computer. Still, I hate to carry my keyboard because of one damn update. I have to remove the music stand and speakers every time I want to carry it, because with the it doesn´t fit in my keyboard bag. The same thing happens if I go on a gig. The truth is that PSR9000 was very handy compared to Tyros even with the weight. Otherwise I am very satisfied with my keyboard. Someday I will write my review of it here.

I don´t think it is economics why Apple decided not to have floppy drives in their computer. Apple has a DVD-R-drive which is very important for me. As a video professional the DVD is the best format for me to share my stuff and more and more of my customers wants their video program that I made on a DVD. Not on a bad quality VHS.

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#178178 - 05/01/03 01:08 PM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
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Micco,
Fine, keep your Apple for your other needs, but buy yourself a cheap pc for things like the Tyros that are not Mac friendly.

If that is unacceptable to you, then live with the consequences of that decision.

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#178179 - 05/01/03 01:25 PM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
msutliff Offline
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Registered: 03/08/01
Posts: 640
Loc: Cottage Grove, MN, USA
Hey Micco,

You could give Virtual PC a try.

http://www.connectix.com/products/vpc6m.html

Our Mac expert here uses it with much success.

What d'ya got to lose?

mike

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#178180 - 05/02/03 04:25 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
Micco Offline
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Registered: 12/07/99
Posts: 177
Loc: Finland
I have the VirtualPC 6 myself and it doesn´t work. I tried many times updating with it, but no luck. Probably a used laptop would be the solution. Some older models are very cheap.

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#178181 - 05/02/03 04:38 AM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
Posts: 2683
Quote:
Originally posted by Micco:
I have the VirtualPC 6 myself and it doesn´t work. I tried many times updating with it, but no luck. Probably a used laptop would be the solution. Some older models are very cheap.


Micco,
There you go.



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#178182 - 05/02/03 12:49 PM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
9000 Robby Offline
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Registered: 07/10/01
Posts: 112
Loc: Germany
Hello friends


One should not make an update with disks with disk 14 a parameter ERROR comes there.

As an owner of a Tyros Keyboard I have download the updatefiles for version 1.20 for floppy disk installation. After download I have copied the files to disks.
I conformity with your installation procedure I have tried to install the new system, BUT by disk 14 (MANPROG14) I got the message "Parameter error". I made a new disk 14 with the same result !! After that I have download the MANPROG14 file again from your site and made a new disk 14.
The effect was the same. Conclusion: there is an error in the file MANPROG14 !!!!!
The result was a TYROS without OS. I hope you will remove the update immediatly from your site before other people get a complete crash of their TYROS. Please check all the 21 files before you put the update on your site again.
I hope I will get an answer from you when the correct files are ready for download.
Nan Jongenelen


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#178183 - 05/06/03 01:04 PM Re: The Tyros OS update sucks :(
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Hello friends


It which did

Vintage here http://www.yamahapkclub.com/tyros/download/os_verup/os_verup.htm


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