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#179031 - 10/22/06 03:37 PM Re: alternative to arranger?
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Mo,
still not happy with the Genesys?

Hadn't heard of the M06 , so looked it up. http://www.yamaha-keyboard-guide.com/yamaha-mo6.html
If the advert is correct sounds more designed for modern dance music???

Main thing to check is you're comfortable with the operating system & that you can play it the way you want.Also that you like the styles & the sounds.

One good thing there a plenty of PSR & tyros users wheras the gem users appear to be far & few between.

best wishes
Rikki

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#179032 - 10/22/06 08:26 PM Re: alternative to arranger?
keysvocalssax Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 845
Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
Quote:
Originally posted by George V:
Guys,

None of you mentioned the sophisticated operating system of the MO6. I think it should be taken into account.

George


george, would you expand on that for me? thanks?

also, everyone, I didn't want the price parameter to come
into play in your evaluation but as long as that was raised,
in my trade-in i could get a psr 1500 or possibly even
a 3k plus the MO6..how would that compare to you:
a T2 vs a MO6+psr1500 (or possibly 3k)

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#179033 - 10/22/06 10:03 PM Re: alternative to arranger?
George V Offline
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Registered: 01/09/05
Posts: 331
Loc: Sofia
Sax,

I have not played the Mo6 (or Mo8) so I am not known with its OS. However, I am in two minds about upgrading to either Mo8 or PSR3000 successor. I expect their price to be similar. The qustion is between 88 weighted keys and 61 (?) keys arranger.

I discussed the matters with a Mo8 owner (that's our synthzone fella Squeak) and he warned that the Mo8 OS is a very sophisticated one. Unfortunately, Squeak disappeared from SZ

There are plenty of yamaha synth users. You could get much more feedback. Please, visit http://www.motifator.com/ This is the "INTERACTIVE SUPPORT FOR YAMAHA MOTIF SERIES INSTRUMENTS"

Regards,
George

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#179034 - 10/23/06 02:49 AM Re: alternative to arranger?
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 6021
Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Mo,
I'm a recent PSR1500 owner, great little keyboard for the money, but if you're used to top of the line sound quality, you may want to check it out more thoroughly before you decide.
It sounds no where near as good as my SD1 but bear in mind the sd was also well over double the price.

best wishes
Rikki


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#179035 - 10/23/06 11:07 AM Re: alternative to arranger?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14285
Loc: NW Florida
I just don't see the point in complicating your life any more than you have to..... Having to learn TWO completely different (and very complex) operating systems to achieve what just one is capable by itself doesn't make sense.

KVS.... have you test driven a T2 extensively, yet? Personally, I wouldn't want to complicate my life until I found out that I HAD to.... Give it a whirl, and you'll probably find it does just what you need.
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#179036 - 10/23/06 08:10 PM Re: alternative to arranger?
keysvocalssax Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 845
Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
thanks to all, think T2 is probably best choice for me..
even though I'm tempted by having a kb w/my name!
that Korg Pa800 looks more my thing, but this dealer
is only Gem/Yamaha. Anyone use the t2 sound system?
comments? do those clip-on satellites swivel toward the
audience? fotos all show facing the player only..
Miami MO
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#179037 - 10/26/06 10:38 AM Re: alternative to arranger?
keysvocalssax Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 845
Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
Oh man, I went and did it! The dealer was willing to take
back my Genesys proS and give me a T2, T2 sound system w/subwoofer and clip-on satellites, 10-pedal
foot controller, volume pedal, damper pedal, hard case,
dust cover in exchange. I'll be receiving shipment in about 2 weeks.
In the interim I will go to Sam Ash and demo the T2, maybe if i can find one of you living in S. Florida who will let me demo theirs for a fee? If I'm not thrilled by T2,
my inclination is to leave everything unopened..I still have
my Korg is35 and Technics KN2600 for gigs. I will then
wait for the Korg PA800 and Roland E60 to hit the stores and demo them, along with SD1plus and SD5. If I like one
of them better, I'll sell the T2 and accessories as new, or
work out some some of swap. Sound like a plan, man?
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#179038 - 10/26/06 01:48 PM Re: alternative to arranger?
lukitoh Offline
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Registered: 08/15/00
Posts: 550
Loc: Hayward, CA, USA
Maybe you could try to turn off the bass lines and play manual bass. I have been playing manual bass for a long time and I thought it is far superior than the arranger's automatic bass lines. In fact I just use the drum rythms and fill-ins. Everything else is manual.

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#179039 - 10/26/06 02:15 PM Re: alternative to arranger?
keysvocalssax Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
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Loc: Miami FL nov-may/Lakeville CT ...
Quote:
Originally posted by lukitoh:
Maybe you could try to turn off the bass lines and play manual bass. I have been playing manual bass for a long time and I thought it is far superior than the arranger's automatic bass lines. In fact I just use the drum rythms and fill-ins. Everything else is manual.


I occasionally do play manual bass, if not always the bass sound then using the bottom end of the guitar, rhodes, B3 setting I am playing in full keyboard mode.
I don't like to do it a lot, because I find it limiting to my overall playing, and I happen to like most of the swing/latin bass lines programmed into the kb's I have used. Often what is very effective jazz-wise is to play manual LH bass while the programmed bass lines are playing. Can you do that on your kb?



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#179040 - 10/26/06 02:51 PM Re: alternative to arranger?
lukitoh Offline
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Registered: 08/15/00
Posts: 550
Loc: Hayward, CA, USA
I suppose you can but probably requires to have 3 zones on your kb. TYROS 2 should be able to do that if you have enough real estate.

1. Chord area
2. Manual LH bass area
3. RH area

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