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#182048 - 06/22/03 02:31 PM Tyros Demo: Video#2
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
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Hi Gang,

Video #2 is here:
http://www.vonckenfan.de/html/tyrosdemo_in_rendsburg.html

The Jump Jive at the end is really Nice

Enjoy

Eric
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#182049 - 06/22/03 08:20 PM Re: Tyros Demo: Video#2
Idatrod Offline
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Registered: 07/23/02
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Michel Voncken really makes the Tyros shine and it is an encouragement to know that if we ever get as good as Michel, then we too can make the Tyros sound as good as he does. At least we know through Michel's demonstration the full capacity that the Tyros is capable of, hence the self determination through practice, practice, practice, that that ability (and the Tyros true capability) could be ours.

On a side note: It is interesting to see Michel's Tyros is equipped with miniature monitors attached to the Tyros speaker brackets. I am not sure these are the same ones that come with the Tyros package but it is interesting none the less. Apparently Michel (or Yamaha) felt the need for him to use the external monitors when playing "Live" before that big audience. And of course Michel gets payed handsomely for his work "at least I hope he does" and he is, of course, considered a "Professional" player even though he tours with Yamaha's roadshow. Michel apparently needed to have those monitors so he could hear "himself" better because of the crowd and because of the other monster speakers outputing to the audience echoing and reverberating around the stage hence the term- 'near field monitors'. Now, Yamaha took it upon itself to market the Tyros as a Professional Keyboard FOR the Professional Musician and because of that Stigma, Image, and Marketing angle, ie., "Professional Keyboard" made for the "Professional Musician" they decided to make the Tyros without internal speakers. Yamaha's thinking (I think) was along the line that if we make the Tyros without internal speakers we will attract more of the "Professional" Keyboard players and get a better foothold in that segment of the Market by being more accepted as a whole as a legitimate "Professional" Keyboard producer. Yet that rationalization washes out when you see Michel Voncken playing that Tyros in a "Professional" setting with a multitude of people enjoying his presentation in "spite" of the fact that the Tyros has those miniature speakers attached to the Tyros for the world to see (as if they or we really cared, right?) The image of the Tyros would have been much nicer to look at if those miniatures were gone and the Tyros had its own internal speakers for Michel and those that use the Tyros to monitor with. (Poof! no more external speakers to look at and clutter up the view of the Tyros and possibly other things), plus in doing that you would make the Tyros more convenient to use and, on the whole, easier to transport. The Tyros length which is over 45 inches is almost as long some 76 Key Arranger Keyboards. And the Tyros wastes vast amounts of empty real estate which if it had been planned better could have been a 76 Key Arranger with excellent internal speakers all ready provided with it, instead of having to spend extra on externals which, btw, is another marketing scheme of Yamahas'. I would gladly lug around a few extra pounds of weight in the Tyros if it had its own internal speakers than to lug both the Tyros and the added burden of external monitors around together with the possibility of those externals getting damaged or lost or even stolen. Even if that means toting 20 or so extra lbs. There is really no use in putting cheap lite speakers in a high end Arranger. {Give me superb quality great sounding durable speakers}- or give me death. (Parody of "Give me Liberty or give me Death") Get it? [Explained for all those not up on American History]- like UD and Donny

Why am I in such a giddy mood!?!?! It must be NAMM Fever setting in.

'Nuff said.

Best regards,
Mike

[This message has been edited by Idatrod (edited 06-22-2003).]

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#182050 - 06/23/03 05:16 AM Re: Tyros Demo: Video#2
trtjazz Offline
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Registered: 08/01/02
Posts: 2683
Eric, thanks for another cool demo heads up. Fpr my tastes, I think Peter Bartman (spelling) from the Netherlands does the Tyros more justice in his demos. Michael is great too just a bit more "commercialish" I guess.

What does impress me about Michaels playing though is one he uses the facilities on the Tyros well by having registrations and things setup ahead of time to be able to add a great deal of variety on the fly. Second, He also use the pitch bend and modulation wheels to the max and gets some great effects with them.
Terry

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#182051 - 06/23/03 11:26 AM Re: Tyros Demo: Video#2
Bigfoot Offline
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Registered: 06/22/03
Posts: 47
where do u guys find these videos? they are great

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#182052 - 06/23/03 01:22 PM Re: Tyros Demo: Video#2
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
Hi Terry,

I agree with you, but it's kind of nice to see what the Tyros can do.
Kind of helping Donny to make up his mind

Bigfoot: The videos are posted on the german Yamaha Forum.

Eric
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#182053 - 06/23/03 02:33 PM Re: Tyros Demo: Video#2
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Eric,

I think I was just Tyros day dreaming........afterwards that night when I went on stage to perform with the G1000 I knew why I'll never buy a Tyros!
I think my Yamaha days are over for now.
Although I hope Roland makes a new offering soon, should be very interesting.
It's just not for me at this time.

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#182054 - 06/23/03 02:37 PM Re: Tyros Demo: Video#2
Eric, B Offline
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Registered: 12/15/99
Posts: 2029
Loc: Ventura, Ca, USA
Donny,

I hear ya
Let's see whats next. It should be interesting indeed.
Glad you like your G1000.

Eric
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