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#182681 - 09/20/06 06:43 AM Yamaha MSR100 speaker failing
Beakybird Offline
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Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
I have two Yamaha MSR100s. They are small molded powered speakers like the JBL Eon10 G2. They are the same weight, smaller, less powerful, and less expensive. I should have gone with the JBLs.

I'm starting year three with these. Last year, one speaker failed. I brought it in, and it the tech found an obvious wire that had to be resoldered.

Several months ago, the same speaker went off and on several times during my performance. I brought it in, and the tech couldn't fine a problem. Gave it back to me for free.

It failed a little more often, and I brought it in again. He still couldn't find a problem after running all kinds of tests.

I had to use this bugger until it started failing repeatedly. I brought it in for the third time, and the tech finally heard the problem. After many hours, he found a loose solder on a crossover wire. All covered under warranty.

A few days later, I hear some harsh distortion coming from the speaker. I bring it in, and after a week, the tech tells me that the reason for the distortion was that my grill was bent in. I paid him $20 this time. The same day towards the end of a performance, the speaker starts letting out some real harsh distortion.

I called the tech, and he said that he had done all kinds of tests on it, and didn't find anything wrong with the speaker.

I'm ready to sell this thing for parts. What should I do?

Beakybird

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#182682 - 09/20/06 10:09 AM Re: Yamaha MSR100 speaker failing
MrEd Offline
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Registered: 09/30/04
Posts: 519
If you need emergency amplification, you can use my Behringer Ultratone K3000. Its a bit bulky and heavier but it sounds good with the PSR3000.

Larry, seeing as half the time, the tech is not finding anything wrong, could it be something else ...
The chord/plugs, does it happen after the speaker's amp has been on for a long period ... Maybe the tech only spends 5 minutes with it and that may not be enough time, as you mentioned, the last time was at towards the end of the performance.

If it's still under warranty, I'd try to get Yamaha directly involved. You've had it into the tech enough times and its not getting better, the company should replace it or at least subsidize.
Maybe try another tech too.

Good Luck and let me know if need the Behringer in the meantime.

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#182683 - 09/20/06 10:17 AM Re: Yamaha MSR100 speaker failing
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
Quote:
Originally posted by Beakybird:

I'm ready to sell this thing for parts. What should I do?

Beakybird


Sell it for parts..

Seriously Larry, the speaker[s] are obviously causing you more heartache than they're worth. The Tech couldn't solve the problem and the problem still exists so it leaves you with little resolve except to sell it/them for parts or dump them. The warranty has expired and you had a couple years of good use out of them so maybe it's time to cut the losses and move on. Only next time you may want to go with what you originally intended and get the JBL's or some other set of speakers that are made by companies that deal exclusively or almost exclusively in the manufacture of loudspeakers and/or sound systems. Yamaha dabbles in so many different areas of manufacturing that it is more difficult to produce products of outstanding quality in each and every area on a consistent basis. Sometimes they get it right and sometimes their products are lacking, as in your case.

Products to consider are JBL, Mackie, Peavy, ElectroVoice, Samson, etc., etc. Or you may give Yamaha another go at it but do your research carefully.

Best regards,
Mike
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Yamaha Genos, Mackie HR824 MKII Studio Monitors, Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro Mixer (made in USA), Cakewalk Sonar Platinum, Shure SM58 vocal mic.

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#182684 - 09/20/06 03:26 PM Re: Yamaha MSR100 speaker failing
Chris Valenti Offline
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Registered: 07/06/05
Posts: 123
Loc: Florida
Beaky,

Equipment problems are a major headache. I've had my share with keyboards. Cut your losses and get something else. I use a 15' JBL Eon for most of my jobs. It's lightweight and works for me. I also have used 15' Peavey's that still work/sound good today. Never had a problem even blasting the things hundreds of times a year for between 500-600 people per job. I dropped them(accidently), bounced them around, and they never gave me trouble.

Chris

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#182685 - 09/21/06 08:26 PM Re: Yamaha MSR100 speaker failing
Beakybird Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 01/27/01
Posts: 2227
I am listening to some good advice from you guys. I just won two JBL Eon10 G2s on an Ebay auction.

Today I did three shows. In the middle of the third show, the one of my 2 MSR100 speakers that has been giving me grief started emitting the harsh distortion I've been hearing.

I immediately unplugged it and turned up the keyboard volume so the other speaker would be louder. I jiggled it around and plugged it in for the next song, and the rest of the gig went without a hitch.

One dilemna I have is that I don't want to sell this MSR100 speaker until it's fixed, and I can't get it fixed when my repair man cannot find a problem. It's still under warranty.

So in the meantime, even after I get my JBLs, I'm going to keep on gigging with this bum MSR100, especially at my less profitable venues, until it starts failing more often and I'm confident my repairman will see the problem.

Beakybird

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