Hi Guys
When will the G 70 be In the US.
I ordered mine over four weeks ago but no idea on when to expect it.
Thanks.

I've been selling the G70 keyboards for over a month now. I have them in my store.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

George and I both are in California. Too bad the distance (nearly 400 miles) is so great or I'd have come down to take a test drive by now. I assume the G-70 is sold thru a CK division Roland dealer, and that Roland made a CK division dealer exception with your store, right? I'm wondering if perhaps the G-70 might be found at a non CK division Roland dealer in my area (San Francisco Bay Area) as well. Amy idea?

George, (or other G-70 owners) here: I think I've asked this before, but can someone with a G-70 that has the newest OS installed PLEASE report back the G-70's chord recognition results for the following chords played in BOTH: split & full keyboard chord modes:

Left hand chords (split mode):

F1 - C2 - E2:
F1 - B1 - E2
E1 - A1 - D2:
F1 - G1 - Bb1 - D2:
E1 - Bb1 - D2:
E1 - F1 - A1- C2:

Left Hand Chords (full keyboard mode):

F1 - C2 - E2:
F1 - B1 - E2
E1 - A1 - D2:
F1 - G1 - Bb1 - D2:
E1 - Bb1 - D2:
E1 - F1 - A1- C2:

Two Hand Chord (Full keyboard mode):
(left hand: Eb1 - A1 - D2) (right hand: G2 - C3 - F3):

Thanks in advance,

Scott

[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 04-29-2005).]

Scottyee,
Here is your request. Full (whole) mode and split are the same till the split point is at C3 (76 notes). If it can help you in your decision,...

G70 with os 1.10.

F1 - C2 - E2: FMaj7
F1 - B1 - E2: G7,13
E1 - A1 - D2: Asus
F1 - G1 - Bb1 - D2: Gm7
E1 - Bb1 - D2: Bb5b
E1 - F1 - A1- C2:FMaj7

Whole mode
(left hand: Eb1 - A1 - D2) (right hand: G2 - C3 - F3): EbMaj5b,6,9


with Bass Inversion mode:

F1 - C2 - E2: FMaj7
F1 - B1 - E2: G7,13 ?? on display!
E1 - A1 - D2: Asus/E
F1 - G1 - Bb1 - D2: Gm7/F
E1 - Bb1 - D2: Bb5b/E
E1 - F1 - A1- C2: FMaj7/E

Whole mode
(left hand: Eb1 - A1 - D2) (right hand: G2 - C3 - F3): EbMaj5b,6,9

bbc,
Regards

Actually, when the VA7, VA5 and VA3 were introduced, Roland CK came to me and set me up as a dealer for all their products. However, I don't have space in my store for the big KR pianos so I never carried any of these.
When the VA76 arrived it was sold by the Roland MI division and so I was not selling anything from CK for about 2 years. CK contacted me in January and asked if I would like to sell the G70 and we signed an agreement that I can only sell G70's and KF7's which is a portable 88 key arranger keyboard. Roland CK knows of my reputation as a store and as a long time major seller of arranger keyboards. I've been doing this for 35 years! This was agreeable to both of us and that's how I am able to sell the G70 where most of the other dealers sell organs and pianos as well. I don't know what kind of arrangment Roland CK has made for distribution in other parts of the USA.
George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

George,

Can I please ask you a question about the KF-7 that you mention?
I was interested in the Roland KF-7 digital arranger piano, and I played it about half a year ago in my local music store. When I asked for it a few weeks ago the answer was that it was discontinued. On the Roland US website it is still shown as part of the product range, but not on the European site.

On the Franfurt Messe however Roland introduced the new series of the KR pianos. Since the KF-7 was technically equal to the KR-7, which is now replaced by the KR-107, I would expect there to be a KF-107. Have you perhaps heared anything from Roland about this?

I think the KF piano is a great alternative for an arranger keyboard, if you don't have to transport it often. You quickly get used to the (nice) weighted keys and of course it has THE best acoustic piano samples. It is different from the Roland keyboards in the style section also because contrary to the keyboards the Roland pianos are developed in Japan (so I was told).

Thanks in advance for the information!

[This message has been edited by Tom NL (edited 04-30-2005).]

bbc: many thanks for taking the time to perform the chord recognition test. It appears the only hangup preventing me from considering a G70 (or any other Roland arranger) now is Roland's chord recognition of those specific chord voicings:

Here is how Yamaha, Technics, & Ketron, and soon to follow: Korg, 'more accurately' & 'more fittingly' recognizes these chords played:

Left hand chords (split mode):

F1 - C2 - E2: Dm9
F1 - B1 - E2: G13
E1 - A1 - D2: C69
F1 - G1 - Bb1 - D2: Gm7
E1 - Bb1 - D2: C9
E1 - F1 - A1- C2: FMaj7


Two Hand Chord (Full keyboard mode):
(left hand: Eb1 - A1 - D2) (right hand: G2 - C3 - F3): F13

I hoping that, with Chris Halon now at the helm as Roland product manager (formerly product specialist for Technics arrangers, of which have always included root jazz chord recognition) might influence Roland to add this on the G70 as well.

George, perhaps if Chris Halon (or other Roland rep) visits your store, you can go explain my request to them, or have them contact me directly. This feature is really 'THAT' important to pro players, and as a leading manufacterer of arrangers, it's time Roland finally 'comes on board' with this.

Thanks in advance,

Scott

Scott,

I am not as musically educated as you are and didn't know these type of chords, but I was curious as to how my Technics KN6000 would recognize them. In fact the result was the same as you wrote, the only exeption is E1 - Bb1 - D2, that is recognized as C79 instead of C9:

F1 - C2 - E2: Dm9
F1 - B1 - E2: G13
E1 - A1 - D2: C69
F1 - G1 - Bb1 - D2: Gm7
E1 - Bb1 - D2: C79
E1 - F1 - A1- C2: FMaj7

I guess Technics did a good job when they developed the KN6000 back in 1999.

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Tom NL

Roland hasn't said anything about the KF7 being discontinued. However, I did just receive a bigger discount from Roland by buy a large quantity so the price has dropped substantially at my store.

George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California

Ok, thank you George. I'm sure that says enough. In the meantime I found out on the Roland US site (http://www.roland.com/products/en/index_event.html) that the KF7 was introduced
half a year after the KR7, so maybe the summer NAMM has something new to offer.

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Tom NL