Scott,

Thanks for sending me the OS update. The rootless chord recognition works perfectly. It recognized all the chords you requested in both pianist & left hand split mode except F-A-B-E. Honestly I would prefer F-A-B-E to be recognized as Fmaj7b5 than as G13.

These chord voicings work in all other keys too.

Henry

scott,

why not just fly down to georges shop and try it out for a day or so? or forget the SD-1 and since your a big Technics affectionato just buy another Kn5000 for backup and studio work, I'm sure you can get one at a great price.

donny

Henry, GREAT to hear that the rootless chord recognition works in both full & split keyboard modes and in ALL keys as well. FANTASTIC !

Henry, I now agree with you that the notes
F-A-B-E should be recognized as Fmaj7b5 (instead of G13), especially now since F-B-E is now recognized as G13. I believe that Sandro has set it up this way to keep us ALL happy

Donny & DonM: I think you are both right about playing and auditioning again before purchasing. The option of flying down (via SouthWest Airlines) to George's place is certainly a consideration but I guess having to travel far afield is something I NEVER had to do before for ANY purchase I have ever made (BIG or small), especially considering that I live in one of the LARGEST metropolitan areas of the ENTIRE US.
- Scott

Hi Scott

Consider ordering an SD1 from Guitar Center and taking it back if you do not like it. That would be one way for us to get a demo locally.

Clif

Great News on the rootless chords .
I have a shipment of SD1's arriving . GC is offering 7 months same as cash starting on Friday . Dano

[This message has been edited by DanO1 (edited 07-25-2001).]

DanO
What is GC's BEST price on the SD1? Also, if I order from your GC on the East coast, do I still have to pay Calif sales tax? How about shipping? You can email me privately if you wish. Thanks.
Tom

DanO1,

If I buy things from you, can you ship it to me, here in San Francisco area ?

Can I return the item(s) to the nearest GC in my area if I decide not to keep it ?

Thanks
Han

Scott,
If you fly down from SF I'll buy you lunch!. Please email me the beta version and whatever instructions Sandro emailed you please.
George Kaye

UPDATE:
I just received DETAILED feedback from Roel that the Sd1's rootless chord recognition does not appear to be "fully completed" yet. Perhaps Sandro sent this first "beta test" as a sample ONLY, as the chords are not being correctly recognized in ALL keys yet. Here are the test result details. I have forwarded this to Sandro.

Chord Progressions (both split & full keyboard modes):

II – V7 – I : Bill Evans inspired A Voicings (arranger keyboard variation):

Dm7(9) G13 C69
(F-C-E) - (F-B-E) - (E-A-D)
++ ALL OK

Ebm7(9) Ab13 Db69
(Gb-Db-F) – (Gb-C-F) – (F-Bb-Eb)
++Recognized INCORRECTLY as Dmin9 G13 C69

Em7(9) A13 D69
(G-D-F#) – (G-C#-F#) – (F#-B-E)
++Recognized INCORRECTLY as Dmin9 G13 C69

Fm7(9) Bb13 Eb69
(Ab-Eb-G) – (Ab-D-G) – (G-C-F)
++Recognized INCORRECTLY as Dmin9 G13 C69

F#m7(9) B13 E69
(A-E-G#) - (A-D#-G#)– (G#-C#-F#)
++Recognized INCORRECTLY as Dmin9 G13 C69

II – V7 – I : Bill Evans inspired B Voicings (arranger keyboard variation)

Gm7 C13 Fmaj7
(F-G-Bb-D) – (E-A-Bb-D) – (E-F-A-C)

Abm7 Db13 (F#maj7)
(Gb-Ab-Cb-Eb) – (F-Bb-Cb-Eb) – (F-F#-A#-C#)

Am7 D13 Gmaj7
(G-A-C-E) (F#-B-C-E) (F#-G-B-D)

Bbm7 Eb13 Abmaj7
(Ab-Bb-Db-F) (G-C-Db-F) (G-Ab-C-Eb)

Bm7 E13 Amaj7
(A-B-D-F#) (G#-C#-D-F#) (G#-A-C#-E)

Cm7 F13 Bbmaj7
(Bb-C-Eb-G) (A-D-Eb-G) (A-Bb-D-F)

Dbm7 F#13 Bmaj7
(Cb-Db-Fb-Ab) (A#-D#-E-G#) (A#-B-D#-F#)

++ALL seven above '13th' chords are incorrectly recognized as G13 !!! ...... the other chords are OK !


Dominant Chords: Rootless (both split & full keyboard modes)

C7(9) (E-Bb-D)
Db7(9) (F-B-Eb)
D7(9) (F#-C-E)
Eb7(9) (G-Db-F)
E7(9) (G#-D-F#)
F7(9) (A-Eb-G)
F#7(9) (Bb-E-G#)
G7(9) (B-F-A)
Ab7(9) (C-Gb-Bb)
A7(9) (C#-G-B)
Bb7(9) (D-Ab-C)
B7(9) (D#-A-C#)

++ The above Dominant chords are recognized as G7(9). ALL are INCORRECT except for (B-F-A).

Two Handed Chords: (full keyboard mode)

Chord Name (lthand) (rt hand)
C13: (Bb-E-A) (D-G-C)
Db13 (Cb-F-Bb) (Eb-Ab-Db)
D13 (C-F#-B) (E-A-D)
Eb13 (Db-G-C) (F-Bb-Eb)
E13 (D-G#-C#) (F#-B-E)
F13 (Eb-A-D) (G-C-F)
F#13 (E-A#-D#) (G#-C#-F#)
G13 (F-B-E) (A-D-G)
Ab13 (Gb-C-F) (Bb-Eb-Ab)
A13 (G-C#-F#) (B-E-A)
Bb13 (Ab-D-G) (C-F-Bb)
B13 (A-D#-G#) (C#-F#-B)

C7(9) (E-Bb-D) (G-C)
Db7(9) (F-B-Eb) (Ab-Db)
D7(9) (F#-C-E) (A-D)
Eb7(9) (G-Db-F) (Bb-Eb)
E7(9) (G#-D-F#) (B-E)
F7(9) (A-Eb-G) (C-F)
F#7(9) (Bb-E-G#) (C#-F#)
G7(9) (B-F-A) (D-G)
Ab7(9) (C-Gb-Bb) (Eb-Ab)
A7(9) (C#-G-B) (E-A)
Bb7(9) (D-Ab-C) (F-Bb)
B7(9) (D#-A-C#) (F#-B)

++ALL above "2 handed chords "are recognized correctly

[This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 07-26-2001).]

Hi Scott
Wow! How LONG did it take you to type in the above response?? I know this topic is near and dear to your heart (and playing style) -it must be to do ALL that typing of chords!!

Tom