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#189913 - 10/05/04 10:02 AM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
lukitoh Offline
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Registered: 08/15/00
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Loc: Hayward, CA, USA
I was not kidding about the Mercedez S class. The REAL God is an amazing God who is able to give more than we can ever hope for.

I always wanted a Mercedez so one day my rich brother wanted to get rid his S class and I bought it for somewhat of a bargain since it was used and my bro was being nice to me. It was gold colour, nice and big and it was still upto date since the body and shape does not change until about 4-5 yrs. So, I took it home.

Lo and behold, about couple weeks later, a longtime friend that I rearely spoke to was back in touch again with me. He had become a very rich person in the mean time and bought a car. Since he lived in another country he does not have a place to store his car. He only visits USA one week a year or so. He asked me to maintain his car and I can use it if I want too. The car arrived and guess what.....it looks like the same Mercedez that I had and the same colour too. So, now there are two Mercedez S class in my garage. They looked virtually indentical except my friend's model is a year newer.

You think it's a coincidence ? I think not.

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#189914 - 10/06/04 02:11 PM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
jeremy_norbury Offline
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Registered: 02/20/04
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Loc: Amsterdam,,The Netherlands
Starkeeper

Being a confirmed and fully-paid-up Atheist, I'd like to point out that, yet again, very little of your story encourages me into a life of religious servitude. Clearly a case of improbable coincidence - like two Presidents with the same name...

The story about the Mercedes S class, however... where did I toss that Gideon again?

Jerry
Amsterdam


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#189915 - 10/06/04 04:40 PM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
lukitoh Offline
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Well, Jerry. If you see my post about the miracles, you might change your mind ? I saw a flat footed person , actually several people that received new feet (plural?) with normal arches. I opened the socks of two people and they both got their arches. Deaf people receives their hearing. In fact one of my friends that I brought with me received a miracle himself and he is somewhat unsure about it before.

The very same pastor is coming to my house this Saturday. And I am gathering the sick, terminally ill, etc to come to my house.

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#189916 - 10/06/04 04:46 PM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
lukitoh Offline
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Actually, you probably need to see it for yourself to believe it. Reading it won't make you believe.

But be aware that there are spiritual realms out there. I saw a possessed man once who spoke in an ancient Javanese language that only a few people know. He worked as a nanny to my parents and I told him to jump over a certain very sacred area. Guess what, the demon is scared of the cross and prayer offered up by a young teenager girl (my sister).

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#189917 - 10/07/04 07:48 AM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
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Registered: 09/16/02
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Loc: Toronto
Jerry,
I said, "IMO this cannot be a coincidence." That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I have never found a bicycle in my life and now I find two identical bicycles two days apart????? This, IMO is not possible. Scientist say that if the odds of something happening are so astronomically high, it is considered impossible. I am a christian, but when it comes to the Lord being fully active in my life, I am sort of on the fence, but this is just not possible, and I am forced to believe.
I am always interested in non-believers. Always curious as to how they would view a similar incidence. Thanks for responding.
Starkeeper

Praying for a PSR1500 now.

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#189918 - 10/07/04 09:36 AM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
lukitoh Offline
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Starkeeper,
An atheist is hard to convince. There is always a remote chance that you got that two identical bikes. And myself with another S class, with same color, etc. However remote, there is a probability number to it !

Now, the flat footed person (actually several at the same time) who received new feet without reconstuctive surgery: now that is a miracle no matter how you looked at it. The possibility of that happenning by chance is ZERO. It is a supernatural event and will probably convince an atheist or skeptic to look deeper.

Starkeeper, have faith and God will do exceedingly far more than what you could ever hope or dream of. You might just get a keyboard much better than PSR1500. How about a PSR3000 or better ? God can do it especially if you have faith in Him and stay in His will for your life. It is MUCH easier to live this life with God's help than without, so we better seek His will and stick to it. You will be very useful and bring much blessing to the people around you with that arranger ! I pray that it will be done in speedy way. Let us know when (not if) and how God provides you with it.

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#189919 - 10/07/04 02:31 PM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
Starkeeper Offline
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Loc: Toronto
Lukitoh,
You are right, a miracle is a miracle. I was surprised that the pastor of our church said that once. Someone being cured of cancer is great, but is it a miracle, or just really good medicine? I would be interested in knowing what an unbeliever would say if he say a bonified miracle (a devine, supernatural act, something that is physically impossible).
Will let you know what God does about the PSR1500. " Hey! This is still about arrangers.
Starkeeper

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#189920 - 10/07/04 03:21 PM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
O.K. guys, you know my reputation, however unwarranted, for humor, but this is true.
One of my first jobs after graduating from Oklahoma State University was to work for Oral Roberts in Tulsa. Technically I was a writer/photographer, but one of my jobs was to go along on crusades and "document miracles", with taped interviews and before and after photos.
I did not share the same faith as Rev. Roberts, but I do know that he is a sincere individual and kept practically nothing for himself. Anyway, I only went to one crusade, in West Palm Beach, FL. I didn't know what to expect and tried to keep an open mind. However, I didn't believe I was going to see any miracles, other than those the human mind can bring about through strong faith, self hypnosis or whatever.
I saw hundreds, maybe thousands of people show up with every imaginable sort of disorder. Many of the "healings" I could explain away through adrenal or whatever. However there were at least three cases that I will not forget, all of which I did document with before and after photos. {Wish I had kept them). Two were very large goiters, growths protruding from the neck area. Both were definitely genuine. Both disappeared immediately after Rev. Roberts placed his hands on them.
The other was a person who had not been able to see in many years. She suddenly regained her vision. I know there is a condition called "hysterical blindness", and possibly this could have been it, but the other two I KNOW something happened. I had interviewed these people and their families both before and after,and I was indeed a sceptic, but they were real.
I felt remorse for the thousands who lined up to be healed and nothing happened.
We don't have all the answers.
I only worked for OR for three months, but it is a time I'll never forget.
DonM
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#189921 - 10/07/04 11:25 PM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
lukitoh Offline
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Registered: 08/15/00
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Loc: Hayward, CA, USA
Oral Roberts is well known among many Christians. He is one of the spiritual giants of our days. I believe he has written many books. I personally never met him but have heard a lot of things about him.

We have confirmed miracles of people with hearing problems.

Sometimes I think when some of these people meet God face to face , he will probably say to himself, ooh I am just dreaming. Nothing, will convince them.

Until they get a Yamaha PSR3000 from a lowly PSR1000 converted before their eyes in a finger snap -----then they will probably believe !!!

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#189922 - 10/08/04 08:50 AM Re: Found 2 identical bicyles.
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Loc: Toronto
That would be a PSR3000 changed from a PSR550. I would be in a state of awe for the rest of my life.
Starkeeper
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