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#191415 - 01/30/05 06:46 AM Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
Telmo Offline
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Those who have the psr3000 could tell me if Tyros styles can sound just as good after being loaded into smart media card on the psr3000?

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#191416 - 01/30/05 07:06 AM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
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Hello
I have both a PSR 3000 and a Tyros, I have load all the styles from Tyros on a smart media caed into the PSR 3000 and it works very well.

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#191417 - 01/30/05 03:27 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
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Thanks a lot for the info Twice, my psr3000 might arrive by the end of this week and I'm so excited.

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#191418 - 01/30/05 07:38 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
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What happens to the OTS when a Tyros style is transferred to the 3000?

How about Tyros Registration Memory, User Voices or Custom Voices?

I am considering adding a PSR3000 as an extra for my Tyros.

I have a lot of saved styles with my OTS settings and special tweaking. I am hoping I can just progam one or the other and easily download what I have on one or the other.

Scott

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#191419 - 01/30/05 07:53 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
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I'm not sure about the registrations, but everything else is compatible.

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#191420 - 01/30/05 10:18 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
Scott Langholff Offline
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Hi Gary

So, then the only real difference is that one would get the same OTS minus the 3rd voice, or does it play even though there is no button for it.

I know on the Tyros in using a style from something that has just the two layered voices that the Tyros picks the Grand Piano as a default. The button isn't activated but it's there ready to use.

Well, Gary, if that's so, and the volumes and everything don't need changing, maybe outside of the EQ, then this is starting to appeal to me.

My other thought is to get another PSR2000 which I have all my files for Music Finder, Reg Mem, User Voices, and User Styles.

Hmmmmmmm. Both ideas sound good to me. haha

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#191421 - 01/31/05 06:09 AM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
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Scott,

Obviously, the third voice will not be available because the 3000 is limited to 2 voices for the right hand. As for getting another 2000, the 3000 offers so many advantages when it comes to storage, it would be difficult for me to play a 2000 after using the 3000 for just a few months. So many wonderful things that can be done on the fly using the USB and Smart Media Card in conjunction with laptop. For anyone set up in this manner it provides the ability to perform seamlessly with zero dead time between songs. And, while some folks will argue that the difference in sample size between the Tyros and 3000 can be heard, your audiences will never know, or for that matter, hear the difference. Even after all these years, I have a great deal of difficulty hearing a distinct difference, especially in the voices that are freqently used such as grand piano, guitars, sax, trumpet, etc. And, in your case, where the Tyros is your primary machine, the 3000 would be an excellent back-up should the Tyros unexpectedly drop dead.

Good luck,

Gary
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#191422 - 01/31/05 06:12 AM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
DonM Offline
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The biggest difference in sound to my ears is in the Grand Piano. Tyros has the best I've heard, when played through good-quality stereo system.
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#191423 - 01/31/05 06:41 AM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
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Originally posted by travlin'easy:


So many wonderful things that can be done on the fly using the USB and Smart Media Card in conjunction with laptop. For anyone set up in this manner it provides the ability to perform seamlessly with zero dead time between songs.

Gary, Laptop and keyboard question. Have you found a way for the laptop to send a message to the keyboard for the setup of the song selected? Or the keyboard to the Laptop selecting a song.

Just a thought, thanks, John C.

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#191424 - 01/31/05 08:38 AM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
travlin'easy Offline
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John, unfortunately, the way things are set up with the 3000s USB, this is still not an option. I mainly use the laptop for midi files, lyrics and MP3s. The laptop audio out is then fired through the 3000s auxilary input. The midi files, which are played through Van Basco's Midi Karaoke Player Van Basco are fired from the laptop's USB to the keyboard's USB-2.0-A connection. Using this technique, I can have an MP3 and Midi file ready to go on the laptop, while at the same time be performing a song from either the MFD or a registration. As soon as one song ends, the next is beginning with a single click of the mouse or pressing laptop's enter key. Sure makes life a lot more fun.

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#191425 - 01/31/05 09:46 AM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
Graham UK Offline
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Tyros Registrations will not load into the 3K, but there is a free program called RegFix which does a reasonably job of the conversion.
Music Finder,User voices & all Tyros OTS Styles work in the 3K taking into account the lack of 3rd Voices as already discussed.

Graham UK

[This message has been edited by Graham UK (edited 01-31-2005).]

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#191426 - 01/31/05 12:18 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
Artaher Offline
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Registered: 12/04/01
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
The biggest difference in sound to my ears is in the Grand Piano. Tyros has the best I've heard, when played through good-quality stereo system.
DonM


Then, DonM, do you say grand piano Tyros is a lot better than PSR3000? or perhaps do you refers to grand piano Tyros comparing it with PSR2000 you had before?

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#191427 - 01/31/05 12:30 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
Uncle Dave Offline
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I swear .. they are the same sample. (My thoughts)
Maybe the different keybed and velocity settings affect how they sound, but I believe the 3k has the same grand piano that the Ty does.
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#191428 - 01/31/05 01:18 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
DonM Offline
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To me, the Tyros sounds better. I don't have a 3000, but my friend Hank does, and I hear it a lot, and play it occasionally. Don't get me wrong, the 3K piano sounds good, but to me the Tyros is better.
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#191429 - 01/31/05 01:46 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
Artaher Offline
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I hope you listen both with similar speakers to do the comparison. If not, it is clear Tyros piano voice will sound a lot better through external speakers than 3000 one through keyboard speakers.

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#191430 - 01/31/05 09:19 PM Re: Can psr3000 play Tyros styles without any tweaking?
DonM Offline
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I've listened to both through several p.a. systems. It's just my opinion, but the Tyros sounds better.
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