Tom, I thought you knew all the lyrics to that song by heart.

As for making styles, I tried it several times, but I was hard pressed to come up with anything nearly as professional sounding and progressive as Yamaha's built-in styles and the Power Styles they sell on their MusicSoft website. Besides, I play a lot of country music at the Blood & Guts Saloon, therefore, one style should be sufficient.

Cheers,

Gary

Toby Keith

I used to come home late and not a minute too soon
Barkin' like a dog, howlin' at the moon

You'd be mad as an ol' wet hen
Up all night wonderin' where I'd been

I'd fall down and say come help me honey
You laughed out loud, I guess you thought it was funny

But I sobered up and I got to thinkin'
Girl you ain't much fun since I quit drinkin'

Now I'm paintin' the house and I'm mendin' the fence
I guess I've gone and lost all my good sense

Too much work is hard for your health
I could've died drinkin' now I'm killing myself

And I'm feedin' the dog, sackin' the trash
It's honey do this, honey do that

I sobered up and I got to thinkin'
Girl you ain't much fun since I quit drinkin'

Now I'm fixin' the sink and I'm mowin' the grass
And you've made me a list and I'm bustin' my.... well

All broke down, tail's been draggin'
It's a rough old life up here on the wagon

And I'm feedin' the dog, sackin' the trash
It's honey do this, honey do that

I sobered up and I got to thinkin'
Girl you ain't much fun since I quit drinkin'
Yeah I sobered up and I got to thinkin'
Girl you ain't much fun since I quit drinkin'

Don,
when you mention "custom styles" you're talking my language. This is why I've stuck around with Technics for over 15 years. I've become SOOOO accustomed to the "Technics Composer" way of doing things..it's really hard to break that habit. I really like doing stuff in chunks, and chain them up together, I'm struggling with my new keyboard (triton studio),for not having that feature.

I should've perhaps gotten a KN7K instead of perhaps a PA80. I want to know more about this "morphing" "40+ user style" that people have been talking about..is it anything resembles what Technics composer does?

KN Fan,

Im sure some of the Roland VA owners can elaborate more on the Morphing feature. I only tried it once when I played Uncle Daves in his studio.
The 'Morphing' feature enables you to substitute elements of one style with another as you go along. For instance, you might be jamming along in a basic rock style and suddenly feel like bringing in a hip-hop bass line, then changing the drum patterns accordingly until you are eventually playing a totally different track with the same tempo and chord progressions. This is a very well-implemented feature and, despite sounding rather complex, is incredibly easy to work.....


This is Way Kool !



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I mostly use custom styles. It takes a lot of time and effort to create them. For me it's well worth the effort. The fact that I need to create custom styles is the biggest reason I went with PA80 -- 40 user slots and one can replace all it's internal styles with custom styles. Chord variations and the fact that fills and intros behave differently also help much when planning, creating and using custom styles on PA80.

Shiral

I think if there were more constantly updated style disks coming out, the synth market would be in deep doo-doo as far as using arrangers for music production.

Check out this page: www.seanbaker.com/songs.html

I made all these songs in the last ten years creating my own custom styles on the PSR-500!!!! I think "Haunting Love" showed off the best what a custom-made style can do.

If I ever get the dough together for either a PA80 or SD-1 then look out!!! I just think in terms of arranging/sequnecing songs, arrangers are more natural and intuitive in the process than synth workstations.



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KN

I'm not certain what the Technics does, so it's hard to say if the PA80 does the same thing. What the PA80 does is allow you to easily mix any individual component of any style or variation with any other styles / components. Also the style to midi tool ( freeware ) allows you to make styles or pieces of styles out of midi files or pieces of midifiles if you want to work with an external sequencer. Generally I prefer to work directly with the PA80's internal sequencer for making new styles or new parts for existing ones.

I chose the Motif vs The Triton and all the others mainly because of it's great sounds ( although the Triton stuff sounds great too ) but also at least in part because of it's other features including the pattern chain record function. Editing is easy too because Yamaha provides a freeware patch editor for the computer. Where the Motif isn't as strong as the Triton is in the arpeggio dept. The Fantom is excellent for modifying arps too ( using algorithims rather than trecorded midi data ), and I like that the upper keys can trigger fills. The big drawback.. Motif allows for user arps.. Fantom does not. Maybe the next version Fantom S ) which will also include sampling, will allow user arps. With those two features and maybe a few updated sounds, the Fantom becomes at least a possible contender for me vs the Triton series for a second workstation.

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Currently working on some new Tyros styles with Megavoicing, also do a lot of stuff for Yamaha PSR's and so on.. Haven't tried other platforms though but I started style creation on the PSR730 before moving through 740, 9000 and currently Tyros.

Regards
Simon
SVPworld



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I have gone as far as remixing baroque style string parts in styles like "tribal age " and "16 beat 1" on the SD1 . Very cool and affective .
Dano


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