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#191672 - 10/28/06 05:53 AM Do you delay or reverberate?
renig Offline
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With regard to your vocal p.a. setup, how do you set your reverb/delay?

Obviously, degrees of reverb/delay will vary from venue to venue, but I'm just curious whether, in general, you use reverb by itself, delay by itself, or a combination of the two.

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#191673 - 10/28/06 06:20 AM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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I've always been a reverberate person.

And of course these days delay means you instantly turn into a karaoke singer!
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#191674 - 10/28/06 07:05 AM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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In my case, I use the keyboard's onboard vocal processor, plus the Digitech VR, and on both I use a low level of reverb. The Bose L1 PA does not use reverb--just EQs.

Works for me,

Gary

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#191675 - 10/28/06 11:19 AM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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I use a Yamaha EMX5000-12 powered mixer which has TWO effects processors, and use a small amount of plate reverb for general ambience, but if you need to get seriously big for a ballad or spacey tune, an echo (tap tempo-ed in time with the music) is, BY FAR, superior than drowning your voice in reverb. Just make sure you switch it off at the end of the song!

BTW....... the new mid-line Yammie powered mixer ( the EMX5014C) only has one FX processor (but six compressors).... you have to go up to the EMX5016CF (about $1k) to get the two processors, so a used EMX5000-12 makes a cheaper alternative. Massively powerful (2X500W), very flexible (on-board mono subwoofer line out, every insert point imaginable), I love it!
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#191676 - 10/28/06 02:16 PM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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Delay can sound very effective on vocals with or without reverb though I think you always need a touch of reverb just to take the dryness off your vocal. But the only thing you must be careful of when using delay is that if it is a longer delay it MUST be in time with the tempo of the song you are using it with. With the band I play in we can't keep changing the delay time from song to song so we only use a VERY short slap back delay that doesn't conflict with the tempo of any of our songs. Sure it's a different effect but we found that long delays would cross the tempo of most of the songs and would sound messy and unmusical.

Of course in the studio you can customize the tempo of the delay from song to song very easily. Or in a MIDI setup if the delay time can be synced to MIDI clock then it will automatically change with the MIDI clock timing.

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#191677 - 10/28/06 02:57 PM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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Personal preferance, but going all the way back to the days of the Echoplex, I've always prefered little or no reverb and a short delay. Boy, was that Echoplex sweet.

Glenn

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#191678 - 10/28/06 03:20 PM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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My favorite delay setting for vocals is a slapback delay that only repeats 4 times within a second, and gets quieter with each repetition. I keep a small ammnt of reverb on the signal as well, but I turn the delay off once in a while.
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#191679 - 10/28/06 04:54 PM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
renig Offline
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Good suggestions all, gents. Many thanks.

Up until now I've been using the built-in reverb on the Peavey XR600F powered mixer we have for p.a. From a previous time, I have an Alesis Microverb, so I'm going to hook that up to the Peavey and try various combinations - hence my probing for your ideas/suggestions.

GlennT: Wow! Echoplex. Boy that takes me back. We had an old German-made Klemt Echolette back in the day - a really decent unit that was.

Thanks again, guys.

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#191680 - 10/29/06 01:30 AM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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As parenthetically referred to in my post (!) the Yammie has a tap tempo button and footswitch input, something every respectable delay unit should do..... There's something about tapping the tempo in rather than having it lock to midi clock, maybe a slight amount of stray timing, helps humanize it. Plus some nights you can do quarter note repeats, some nights triplet quarter notes, etc.. Anything to add to the randomness (especially when you use an arranger!)........
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#191681 - 10/29/06 11:09 AM Re: Do you delay or reverberate?
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Absolutely! Unfortunately neither of my reverb/delay options have that option. My keyboard does, however. Not that that will help in this case.

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