Short but promising.
http://www.synthesisers.co.uk/tyros2review.htm

Eric

Too bad no 76 keys.....

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You guys don't seem to get tired...

I'm with kbrkr here regarding the 76 keys. It just seems a complete waste of space for Yamaha to drop the floppy and still leave that shelf. There's clearly enough room for additional keys.

Squeak

And yet another one:
http://www.piens.be/news/detail_en.lasso?id=1951

You can also listen to the demos here:
http://www.piens.com/prices/index.lasso?a=041035en]&id=5&lang=en

Eric

I forgot, some pictures:
http://www.piens.be/news/detail_en.lasso?id=1950

Eric

Taken from one of the review sites:

"Every Cover Band, Rock and Pop Band, and indeed every Recording Studio will buy this new-generation instument."

How far fetched is that? And if it's not offered in a 76 or 88 key version just the opposite will be true in my opinion. In other words: "Hardly ANY" Cover Band, Rock and Pop Band will buy this new-generation instrument. And to prove my point how many Professional Bands (Well known Bands or otherwise) use 61 key anything up on stage?
The answer is nary a one my friends.

They're very few and far between. OTOH how many 76 and 88 key keyboards do you see on a stage? Right, mostly all the Keyboards you see on stage are either 73, 76, or 88 keys? Occasionally you do see 61 keys but not that often. So do they think the Tyros2 will change that statistic overnight? Sorry, I don't think so.

But if Yamaha does offer a 76 or 88 key version somewhere down the road then Piens' bold statement may just have some truth to it.

Best regards,
Mike

I totally agree with you keybplayer. When you look at the keyboardists playing in bands today I'd say that from what I see 98% of the time they're playing with 76 or 88 keys. Also the two keyboards I ALWAYS see are the Motif ES8, and the Korg Triton with 88 keys. Also I always see players now with both the Triton and Motif sharing the same 2 tier rack.

Studios and bands aren't just looking for 61 keys. Hell if that's the case why aren't we seeing the current Tyros 1 all over studios, on stage with cover bands, ect.

You're right they are not going to change that just overnight. I think the T2 may be a good board, but with the pre-release of all the top boards the (hype) is often way overplayed.

Squeak

Though I too would appreciate a 76 note (and better yet 88 note) arranger for the ability to play solo piano style on the arranger, for auto-accomp style playing, 61 notes really is sufficient. With the split point set at F#2, I'm able to easily able to play just about any standard chord progression, with full chords & inversions, rootless chords with extensions (9ths, 11ths, 13ths) & alterations (b9,#11,etc), and relatively 'smooth voice leading', all within the confines of an octave and a half (C1-F#2). The KEY to mastering this is learning "how to" play all the standard chord changes (I-VI-II-V7, IV-V-1, etc in ALL keys) utilizing smooth voice leading, utilizing all available chord inversions.

This leaves F#2 - C7 (four and a half octaves) available for the right hand part: melody & melodic fills, which is the same real estate playing area possible (between middle C and the highest note on a standard 88 note (not 76) acoustic piano. Considering this fact, and also, the ability (on the Tyros) to conveninetly trigger the 'octave transpose' buttons (if needed), I now tend to argue for maintaining the 61 note approach on a "portable arranger" (afterall that's what it's marketed as, right) to preserve lighter weight. As a classically trained acoustic pianist begining at age four, I had to later learn to adapt my playing style for arranger playing & its 61 keys. The bottom line is that "no arranger out there" includes keys that feel or respond remotely like a true 88 note grand piano. I've learned to approach solo keyboard & arranger keyboard playing differently. Ok gang, I promise I won't even go into the 'smaller' Yamaha keys issue, of which I believe is continued with Tyros2. As far as integrating 76 keys, fitting within the confines of the existing Tyros2's dimensions, it would further raise the Tyros2 weight, and 'my guess' is that the 'new improved' 61 key feel key bed included in Tyros2 will already raise the Tyros2 weight above Tyros1. 76 keys would add additional weight, and I'm sure there will be some people complaining about that. That said, other than missing the ability to play full solo piano on the Tyros, to me, 61 keys is just fine for arranger style playing, of which this keyboard was primarily designed for. - Scott

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Seriously how much weight could that add though? I don't want any forum member to take this the wrong way and I truly respect you all, but I can see the concern with the weight issue here with several of the older members on the forum, and that's completely understandable. However, how much weight is too much today? I'm sure with 76 keys the Tyros 2 would weigh just around the same as the 61 key Motif (of course that's just speculation) The Motif does have some weight to it, but I don't hear anyone upset about the weight of either the Motif 61 key or 76 key model. Same goes for the Triton and Fantom series as well. It seems that the weight issue is often brought up more with arranger than with the synths. I find this interesting to because often the arrangers (even with speakers) are considerably less weight than an non arranger keyboard.

Now if the Tyros 2 was 76 keys and had internal speakers then I would be with everyone else saying drop the weight.

Squeak

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