Wave ROM is tricky. You can also read the fine print that 64 MB when converted to 16bit linear ROM.

So, it depends on how good the compression they applied. You could have 100MB sounding worse than 10MB, if they compressed a lot.

Also, it's matter of quality versus, quantity. You could have 10 terrible sounding samples, with lot of looping, or 1 long sample with natural decay occupying same amount of ROM.

>> I'm looking for other upgrades in 3k, like 3 intro/ending buttons, able to change upper octave and transpose without having to press the damn button twice, USB

Absolutely agreed, and don't forget that the styles are much improved also (I'll be upgrading from a 2000). The only regret I have is that it will not be possible to link registratons or music finder entries to styles kept on the memory card.

BTW, do we already know how much user memory the 3000 will have?

Georges

I think you're still discussing a keyboard that is in the prototype stage. Yamaha may not have even decided all these things yet.
DonM

>> I think you're still discussing a keyboard that is in the prototype stage. Yamaha may not have even decided all these things yet.

Yes, that might well be true for the amount of internal memory they'll pack onboard and a couple of other things as well.

However, concerning access to styles on memory card there has been an official word. Here is what Steve Dening from Yamaha wrote when I asked him about it: "That's not going to work. I've put in in our Idea Suggestion database for possible inclusion in future versions/models."

Georges

With 5 months until arrival in US stores, the keyboard is most probably not in the prototype design stage. The keyboard is in the production stage. I'm sure that all of the specs are final. Still an exciting keyboard.

Beakybird

Hi Georges

Quote: [ concerning access to styles on memory card there has been an official word. Here is what Steve Dening from Yamaha wrote when I asked him about it: "That's not going to work. I've put in in our Idea Suggestion database for possible inclusion in future versions/models."]

Am I reading this right? Are you saying no external styles can be put into the memory card? That's what that sounds like and it doesn't really make any sense to me. Could you clarify this for me?

Thanx
Scott

no, I think it is not as you say.
I think that what will not be possible is to link registratons or music finder entries to styles kept on the memory card.

Hi Artaher

I think you must be right. This is the way I understood it previously anyway. Otherwise what sense is there in having an SD card if you can't put a bunch of extra styles on it?

Next question I suppose is how big of an SD card is available and how may styles may fit on it approximately.

Scott

>> Are you saying no external styles can be put into the memory card?

No, no, not at all! It is just that neither Music Finder nor Registrations can read the styles directly from the SD. So as before we need to copy any specific styles used within regs or MF to the user memory area.

If user memory is large, this won't be too much of a handicap. However, on the PSR2000 I am playing now, I can keep just about 15 styles in that area and that is clearly not enough since I often play with song-specific styles.

With the very low memory prices we have today, I wonder why they should not be able to give our keyboards at least 64 Mb of user memory, or the ability to add memory later, just like we do on our PCs.

How is this solved on the Tyros? Can its registrations fetch styles from the harddisk?

>> how big of an SD card is available and how may styles may fit on it approximately

AFAIK you can have SDs up to 128 Mb; enough to fit in a couple thousand styles :-)

Georges

What I know, 2Mb. Would be great if there were more...